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2005-02-09 Southeast Asia
US mulls closer ties to Indonesia
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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-02-09 12:10:19 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Fluff piece? Lots of restatement of the obvious?

On the other hand...

.com, do you happen to have a graphic with text of Admiral Akbar handy?
Posted by Asedwich  2005-02-09 12:21:39 AM||   2005-02-09 12:21:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "The tsunami in Aceh showed that people in the West were serious in giving aid to Muslim counties," says Ulil Abshar Abdalla, an Islamic scholar and liberal Muslim activist. "It will shift perceptions of the West as a bloc."

This is another Me Muslim load of crap. The US helps people in dire need. It is who we are, and what we do. We went to Bam after the earthquake, and even had our female soldiers put on headscarves to be sennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsitive to MM sensibilities. We do it for everyone because they are human beings. Lay off the muslim label crap.
Posted by Alaska Paul  2005-02-09 12:44:30 AM||   2005-02-09 12:44:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Asedwich - the classic, "Its a Trap!"
Posted by .com 2005-02-09 5:53:08 AM||   2005-02-09 5:53:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Personally, given the dismal performance of the Indo judicial system with Bashir & Co, I can't see doing much - unless we're talking Ghost Jet service to NeverNeverLand. I would share any intel, that's for damned sure. Remember how they handled Hamball's wife? IIRC, they denied us access to her and demanded he be turned over to them - after the Thais captured him in coord with US. Right. Yewbetcha. He's still ours because we didn't. I say they have to prove they can grab baddies - including old men who hang around thinking they're immune cuz they're Muzzy "scholars" like Bashir - and deal with them both on the intel side and the legal side. Thus far, nothing to confirm they can do either. Were it not for the guy who "turned" of his own accord, no-shit honest remorse, they would've had to let Bashir go months ago. Indo elicits no sympathy from me regards the WoT at the moment.
Posted by .com 2005-02-09 6:00:38 AM||   2005-02-09 6:00:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks, .com! Sometimes there is an appropriate use of a Fark cliche!

You're expressing what I feel about the situation. Indonesia is the most populous Muslim nation, and if they were serious about deeping strategic ties with America it might be worthwhile---both as a wedge against the Wahabis and as a geographical chokepoint. But Indonesia's recent performance has been noncommital at best, and at worst very wishy-washy when they could really prove themselves.

Getting involved at this point could prove a real "quagmire."
Posted by Asedwich  2005-02-09 8:06:05 PM||   2005-02-09 8:06:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 :) I hope we're wrong, but they have to prove it, now.
Posted by .com 2005-02-09 8:10:56 PM||   2005-02-09 8:10:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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