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2005-02-14 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

'Hizbollah plotting to assassinate Abbas'

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Posted by Fred 2005-02-14 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Hizbollah is Iran by proxy. So Iran wants to assassinate Abbas. This fits in with my prediction Abu Mazen toes up with in 6 months.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-02-14 12:36:37 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-02-14 12:36:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Where does Abbas have the resources and the loyalty to rein in Hizb'Allah and Hamas? He may have some support from the US with a wad of money, but who is going to go in and kick some serious terrorist ass? He's doomed, doomed, I tell ya. Nothing will happen until the terrorists are reined in, and that will not happen until the Paleos are tired of this suicide bomber crap and start ratting out the terrorist cells. Pigs will fly before that happens.
[/Pessimistic but realistic rant]

Posted by Alaska Paul 2005-02-14 1:45:20 AM|| 2005-02-14 1:45:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Analysts believe Mahmoud Abbas is faced with a formidable challenge of convincing Palestinian militants to halt attacks against Israel and let him try to negotiate an end to the Israeli occupation.

Heh, that's putting it lightly. :)

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-02-14 2:19:31 AM|| 2005-02-14 2:19:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Abbas' problem is more fundamental. There is no Paleo state to control. The UN, Israel and a bunch of external charities run most stuff. All Abbas has is control of the money stream (I assume) and some security outfits of dubious loyalty. Unless and until he controls security there is no Paleo de facto government and I don't see how one happens without disarming Hamas etc and I don't see how disarming occurs without a shooting (civil) war which Abbas would almost certainly lose in Gaza without outside intervention. That is if he lives long enough to try.

Posted by phil_b 2005-02-14 5:43:51 AM|| 2005-02-14 5:43:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Abbas' problem is more fundamental. There is no Paleo state to control...Unless and until he controls security .

Other 21 (right now Iraq doesn't count) arab countries have heads that control security, does it makes them (nation) states?

Posted by gromgorru 2005-02-14 8:37:16 AM|| 2005-02-14 8:37:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 If Abbas were to actually negotiate with the Zionist entity then there would be peace and we wouldn't be able to kill jooooos. That's unislamic. Abbas the infidel must die.

Posted by PlanetDan 2005-02-14 10:09:47 AM|| 2005-02-14 10:09:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 could it be...that Abbas is trying to work towards a real Palestinian State, believing that he can actually help the Palestinian people?

Nah....that would just be so un-Islamic.

Posted by 2b 2005-02-14 12:16:11 PM|| 2005-02-14 12:16:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 ok..now I feel bad for saying that. If indeed Abbas is attempting to move the Palestinian's forward, mind boggling though that may be, I wish him all the success in the world.

Posted by 2b 2005-02-14 12:22:50 PM|| 2005-02-14 12:22:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 2b

The operative word here, is IF

Frankly, I think he is trying to arrive at a peaceful settlement . . .

- in which case he'll absolutely be a target by islamicists. . .

- in which case, to have all the success in the world, he'll need all the LUCK in the world.

Posted by PlanetDan 2005-02-14 1:09:18 PM|| 2005-02-14 1:09:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 its all about the Iranian empire folks. Teheran has a more or less loyal client in Syria. Though Lebanon is Syrias client, through Hezbollah Iran exerts direct influence over Lebanon, influence that has grown since the Israeli withdrawl. Iran is still struggling to make tangible gains in Iraq from the fall of Saddam. They tried to gain control of Herat, Afghanistan, but Karzai outmaneuvered them. Supporting Pal rejectionists is there way of asserting influence over West Bank and Gaza - and less directly, over Lebanon and Jordan as well.

Pals factions have always been playthings for outsiders. Historically PLO was Nassers, although Arafat gave some independence vis a vis arab states. Certainly that play hasnt ended. Abbas is aligned more with Egypt and Jordan. With Iraq gone, and KSA being more careful, the extremists look to Syrian and Iran.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-02-14 1:18:10 PM|| 2005-02-14 1:18:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Pals factions have always been playthings for outsiders

The world's chew toy. Like Aris, if you squeak, you're weak.

Posted by 2b 2005-02-14 3:16:46 PM|| 2005-02-14 3:16:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Go ahead, 2b, say ~~Beetlegeuse~~ Beetlejuice 3 times. I dare ya, lol!

Posted by .com 2005-02-14 3:21:14 PM|| 2005-02-14 3:21:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 .com, it works only once! LOL

I have to say that Aris was behaving in the past few days...

Either he wisened up, or one wonders how long that would last.

(Ok, ok, isn't this super-duper invocation or what!?) ;-)

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-02-14 5:23:13 PM|| 2005-02-14 5:23:13 PM|| Front Page Top

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