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2014-08-31 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Satellite images destroy myth of arctic meltdown

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Posted by gorb 2014-08-31 01:57|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 If this keeps up... Well...Ummm could this be New York City Summer 2020 ?

Posted by Guillibaldo Bumble9343 2014-08-31 09:49|| 2014-08-31 09:49|| Front Page Top

#2 New Ice age coming because of man being mean to planet Earth!! Repent and give up all your earthly goods to the Greens!! They'll save us!!

/sarc

Posted by DarthVader 2014-08-31 11:49|| 2014-08-31 11:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Haven't seen or heard of any polar bears in the Smoky Mtns anytime recently.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-08-31 18:01|| 2014-08-31 18:01|| Front Page Top

#4 "However, while few scientists doubt that carbon-dioxide emissions cause global warming"

Uh, er, no.

Ditto for the "portion of ice decrease caused by natural variability".

I must have missed where "science" was able, on the basis of just about no data (compared to what is required for statistical supposition and hypothesis testing in every other branch of inquiry), to actually fully characterize just what makes climate change (as it has since there was an atmosphere).

Without this, there is no possible logical basis to define "natural" vs. anthropogenic contributions to the process, or processes, or system, or system of systems.

Are these people ever challenged to demonstrate the logical and empirical basis for these breezy presumptions that in fact are gigantic logical fallacies, and are which the entire basis for "man-made climate change"? I see this over and over - "skeptics" who, nonetheless, believe "man DOES contribute" to climate change.

Why? How? On what logical and empirical basis - and here a robust and full characterization of the actual processes at work is requisite - do they "sorta kinda think man's gotta have somethin' to do with it"?

I realize, given how effectively dumbed-down and corrupted the culture and society are, that I should never expect such transparently sloppy and illogical argumentation to even get noticed, much less deconstructed.

But still.

Posted by Verlaine 2014-08-31 21:31|| 2014-08-31 21:31|| Front Page Top

#5 few scientists doubt that carbon-dioxide emissions cause global warming
I believe that statement is true, as far as it goes. The uncertainty is in 'how much' global warming? Is it a large fraction of a large amount or a small fraction of a small amount (or even just 'less cooling'?)

Posted by Glenmore 2014-08-31 21:39|| 2014-08-31 21:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Up until recent times people heated themselves by burning coal and wood. London used to be covered with soot. How much pollution was produced by a smaller population burning a lot more wood? They didn't have gas or electric heaters in the Middle Ages that I've ever heard of.

When I was a boy we had a coal stove and we had a ton of coal delivered in the fall. So did most of the other houses in the neighborhood. When it got going good my granddaddy's furnace would have smelted steel.

Since 1970 we've been cleaning up emissions. Cars don't put out the gunk the '57 Chevy produced as you were seeing the USA. Major industry has shut down--you don't see the sky dark from smokestacks anymore. Pittsburgh and Wheeling are now visible from miles away. The first time I was in Los Angeles my eyes tried to wash right out of my head and you couldn't see the sky.

So now things are worse?

Posted by Fred 2014-08-31 23:30|| 2014-08-31 23:30|| Front Page Top

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