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2003-03-26 Iraq
British Engage Column of Iraqi Vehicles
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Posted by Steve 2003-03-26 08:48 pm|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Yeah, the "that's odd" factor is getting a bit high. Those troops would have been a bit more of a problem for us if they had sat in Basra. Like the large Republican Guard troop movements from Baghdad, this seems to indicate a ridiculous level of faith in the cover provided by sandstorms, or a "use it or lose it" mentality, or some incredibly stupid orders to attack no matter what, or some combination of the above.
Posted by Patrick Phillips 2003-03-26 13:47:14||   2003-03-26 13:47:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Or they fill those vehicles with women and children attempting to "escape" coailition bombing in Basra. I pray that's not the case.
Posted by Domingo 2003-03-26 14:11:11||   2003-03-26 14:11:11|| Front Page Top

#3 Highway 666
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-03-26 14:21:54||   2003-03-26 14:21:54|| Front Page Top

#4 There was a comment I saw last night on FOX that said that Saddam had ordered his troops to "Just fight them". If someone in the enemy command received that order and he happened to be on the business end of a Fedayeen pol's pistol, he might just order his troops out to do just that in spite of the knowledge that he was committing military suicide. Sounds like the same thing is happening up north near Baghdad (I don't think anyone in their right mind really wants to pick a fight with US Marines).
Posted by FOTSGreg  2003-03-26 14:22:32||   2003-03-26 14:22:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Special Forces tapping phone lines or high ranking turncoats order the most loyal units on suicide charges, saying "the sandstorm will give you cover."
Afterwards, Commando Solo says, "They were ordered into the grinder by the regime. Saddam might have been disposing of units he distrusted... or maybe he's just that inept a commander."

If we knew about the sandstorm in advance (and we probably did) then this scenario makes a lot of sense.
Posted by Dishman  2003-03-26 14:52:45||   2003-03-26 14:52:45|| Front Page Top

#6 It looks like a general counterattack. Iraqi forces are striking south; from Baghdad, from Basra, from Al Kut. Under the cover of sandstorms, they are now attacking Army, Marine, and British forces that are in the open and away from cities. Motives?

1. Saddam believes that absent airpower, American ground troops can't fight, and will run.
2. By just sitting and waiting, his army will have too much time to think; Attacking at least gives them something to do

(If it was use ‘em or lose ‘em with Saddam now seeing the end, I think we would also be seeing WMD use.

Saddam is about to learn the truth about the American fighting man. This attack could shorten the war and reduce our, and civilian casualties. Think Battle of the Bulge lite and the West Wall.
Posted by Dave 2003-03-26 15:05:38||   2003-03-26 15:05:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Perhaps its a desperation move to attack the port area after it was declared safe. First, this would be an embarisment to the coalition forces. Second, it would take the "food and water" incentive away from the revolting Basra residents.
Posted by Canaveral Dan  2003-03-26 15:12:32||   2003-03-26 15:12:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Latest from BBC: A number of vehicles in this Iraqi column of armour have been hit by Coalition jets. The attacks from the air and ground have been going on now for over two hours. This was after a huge column was seen to be leaving the south-eastern approach roads of Basra heading towards our position down on the Al-Faw peninsula. Coalition planes are using thermal imaging and night vision so they have an advantage over the Iraqis. At the moment it would seem the Iraqis are sitting ducks.
They're extra crispy duck about now.
Posted by Steve  2003-03-26 15:21:25||   2003-03-26 15:21:25|| Front Page Top

#9 Call me paranoid, but I also hope this isn't a distraction, hoping to get the Marines engaged in a firefight then pop some chems in the area. Marines faced with a choice of dropping their weapons to don gas masks or continue to fire at the advancing enemy. I'm pretty sure our vehicles will be buttoned up, but that doesn't help the grunt on the ground with an M-16.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-03-26 15:30:23||   2003-03-26 15:30:23|| Front Page Top

#10 Chieftains and Warthogs vs. T-55s and BTR-50s. Not very sporting, but this ain't the Summer Olympics, either.
Posted by Mike  2003-03-26 15:35:33||   2003-03-26 15:35:33|| Front Page Top

#11 Had a stray thought when I was on the way to the local library a few minutes ago: Seems there were some very sophisticated Russian-made cruise missiles found in Al Faw. Then there's the report that 3ID discovered some Russian chemical warheads and a Russian technician. Wonder if these two deployments are tasked with "destroying the evidence". May not do them any good, but they may have to try, or face some really embarassing questions in a couple of weeks.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-03-26 19:39:45||   2003-03-26 19:39:45|| Front Page Top

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