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2003-04-17 Europe
Iraqi Defeat Jolts Russian Military
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Posted by Baba Yaga 2003-04-17 08:59 pm|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 RW, you just stated a concept that is so simple for us Merkins, but the entire third world, and (I'm convinced) most of the industrialized world does not understand. That's why they mistrust us. They think that we got prosperous by taking it with superpower force. Because that's what THEY would do in our place. (do you see France, Russia, here?) They can't believe we'd liberate a country and them help them build. Even with Japan, Germany, Korea as past history. They think we're like them. Simplistic, yes, but I believe it goes a long way towards explaining why the hateful muslims and even the sophisticated euros hate us.
Posted by Scott 4/17/2003 11:38:57 PM||   4/17/2003 11:38:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 "The Americans bought the Iraqi military leadership with dollars. One can only envy a state that is so rich."

The Russians are sitting on the largestest economuc jackpot in the world as far as land based resources and all they can complain about is how freaking poor they are. The economic potential of the Russian rebuplic let alone the former USSR is staggering. My opinion is they still are indoctronated to ask to go to the bathroom like a first grader
Posted by Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire 2003-04-17 22:47:40||   2003-04-17 22:47:40|| Front Page Top

#3 "One can only envy a state that is so rich."
You got that right. And that ain't no accident. The lesson for the rest of the war-torn, corrupted world: study the reasons why the USA is so rich and there's a chance you might duplicate their success. So put down the AK, stop spewing hatred, send your kids to school, and.... y'all just try to get along!
Posted by RW 2003-04-17 23:09:26||   2003-04-17 23:09:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Maybe that'll finally change.
Reforming their army will require a change of attitude. That change may well be infectious.
It appears to me to be going reasonably well in China (based on personal experience, not the SARS fiasco).
Posted by Dishman  2003-04-17 23:35:24||   2003-04-17 23:35:24|| Front Page Top

#5 RW, you just stated a concept that is so simple for us Merkins, but the entire third world, and (I'm convinced) most of the industrialized world does not understand. That's why they mistrust us. They think that we got prosperous by taking it with superpower force. Because that's what THEY would do in our place. (do you see France, Russia, here?) They can't believe we'd liberate a country and them help them build. Even with Japan, Germany, Korea as past history. They think we're like them. Simplistic, yes, but I believe it goes a long way towards explaining why the hateful muslims and even the sophisticated euros hate us.
Posted by Scott 2003-04-17 23:38:57||   2003-04-17 23:38:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Several points here:
"The Americans bought the Iraqi military leadership with dollars. One can only envy a state that is so rich."
Works for me a"win is a win".

The Soviets were the first to develope the"Combined Arms"army concept.But it took American injinuity,and technology to make it come of age.

If you remember what C.Powel said when ask how we would fight the Iraqi military GW1"First we are going to cut off the head then we are going to kill it".Worked in"91"and worked this time too.Looks like the average Iraqi grunt(and officer corps)rememberd that concept.

Also if Russia could get it's act together vis-a-vi Siberia,they would be an economic powerhouse second to none.
Posted by raptor  2003-04-18 07:45:42||   2003-04-18 07:45:42|| Front Page Top

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