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2003-04-19 Terror Networks

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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2003-04-19 09:05 am|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Radio Islam." Wow, that's quite a website- complete with The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion, caracatures of hook-nosed Jews, the whole nine yards. Pretty revolting stuff.

Posted by Dave D. 2003-04-19 11:10:33|| 2003-04-19 11:10:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Based on this excerpt; looks like the cluetrain is leavin the station without a few riders.

As long as Arabs cling to medievil notions like those expressed above, they are not going to have any chance of winning ANY wars against Isreal. If they can't field a modern army (which means having a country with a real capitalist economy) they will continue to loose war after war.

Posted by Leigh 2003-04-19 11:29:09|| 2003-04-19 11:29:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Roger Garaudy, and not a single mention of Gabriel Cohn-Bendit or Thierry Meyssan, or any other great french thinker! That's an outrage! Hey, we practically invented holocaust denial!

Posted by Anonymous 2003-04-19 11:46:43|| 2003-04-19 11:46:43|| Front Page Top

#4 They won't admit it, but they need that Army-based policy of NK and their problems will be solved, heh heh. Actually they need some serious rewiring, or they will continue at what they are doing and will fall in a very violent way, taking alot of innocents with them.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-04-19 12:15:14|| 2003-04-19 12:15:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Among the Islamists, presently the most vibrant and rapidly expanding segment of the Muslim World, the very existence of a Jewish state called Israel constitutes a contradiction of major Qur'anic tenets. On the most basic level, the mere existence of a political entity run by the Jews, particularly on a land claimed by Islam, is a profound challenge and affront to Islam that is political and not only religious in essence. Thus, Israel is unacceptable under any circumstance.

Exactly what I've been saying. However, the author doesn't point out the real affront to Islam: The veracity of the Koran and the Prophet is based partly on literary considerations and mostly on victories in battle. This article at my site explains this in more detail.

Posted by Ptah 2003-04-19 13:57:29|| [www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2003-04-19 13:57:29|| Front Page Top

#6 The entire problem with Islam is that it's a direct contradiction of the Torah. Islam refutes the basis of God's Plan to the Jews, given in Exodus. Instead, it deliberately proposes giving the Islamist "permission" to do whatever they want, except for a few basic proscriptions. Case in point: the Ten Commandments. Note that none of these actually make the translation into the Koran, although the Koran is supposedly based on the Torah. The rules requiring Jews to release slaves after seven years is another point where Islam has warped these teachings into something the Imams want. The contradictions between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam force Islam to ignore any chance of coexistence. The basic contradictions between JudeoChrisitan beliefs and Islam are profound, and cannot be "explained" away. Therefore, the only way Islam can resolve these contradictions is to destroy JudeoChristian thought. This is going to continue to be ugly as long as there are tenets to any of these three major faiths.

I'm more and more convinced the AntiChrist will arise from Islam than from any Christian or Jewish sect.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-04-19 14:45:02|| 2003-04-19 14:45:02|| Front Page Top

#7 Wow! That site is wild. I never dreamed the Islamic movement was so far reaching.

I did see something that I thought deserved a legitimate answer - Did Ariel Sharon actually say in an argument with Shimon Peres, "don't worry about America... we control America"?

Posted by Scott 2003-04-19 17:27:47|| 2003-04-19 17:27:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Sharons comments always seem to be shrouded in mystery. However, Netanyahu has made that claim on a few occasions. The AIPAC does have a great deal of control over our congress, likend to the NRA to gun gun control. The only difference is the AIPAC doesn't have the second amendment protection, so it requires so much more money to lobby for a foreign country.

Posted by George 2003-04-19 17:42:09|| 2003-04-19 17:42:09|| Front Page Top

#9 George, then who in the ME do we trust?

Posted by Scott 2003-04-19 18:03:30|| 2003-04-19 18:03:30|| Front Page Top

#10 In truth, we have to trust Israel, not just because we/them have the same interest. But, as mentioned before, they really are the most free country in the middle east. But, we just can't let them wave a stick at a hornets nest all the time we have to put pressure on them too. We just can't give them carte blanche. Unfortunately, I don't think the Arabs want to work with the modern world, but that remains to be seen. My feeling is they have to give in to the Palestinian State and then see what happens. I really believe that all Israel wants is security. And, I would like to see the survival of the Isreali state. But, what I'm most interested in is the survival of the US. I don't want to see a nuke in a ship on the Delaware river take out the city of Philly because of some misguided allegence. Congress needs to relize that the national security of the US takes president over any other foreign country. But, living in europe has really made me believe that the Arabs want the total destruction of Isreal; as do many europeans. They blame Isreal for just about all of the worlds problems. My opinion is the US needs to say publically that it will protect Arabs and Isrealis equally. At the end of the day we all know what the result will be: # of Kills: Islamofascism 0, US 100.

Posted by George 2003-04-19 19:47:58|| 2003-04-19 19:47:58|| Front Page Top

#11 George, your assumption continues to be that the Arabs are mad at us because of Israel. Osama's reason for attacking us wasn't Israel, but U.S. Soldiers in Saudi Arabia. Israel was a good secondary cause, but not the primary.

Posted by Ptah 2003-04-19 20:58:39|| [www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2003-04-19 20:58:39|| Front Page Top

#12 this site is truly repulsive in it's racism against jews.

I failed to find those caricatures you promised me, Dave, but I did find the official site email:

If anybody feels so inclined, you may email long and hard!

ri@abbc.com

Posted by anon1 2003-04-19 22:28:53|| 2003-04-19 22:28:53|| Front Page Top

#13 Actually, I don't think it is a cause, but rather an excuse. The Arabs are taught to hate anything that is offensive to Islam.

Posted by George 2003-04-20 06:29:02|| 2003-04-20 06:29:02|| Front Page Top

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