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2003-06-10 Middle East
Three killed in fresh Israeli raid on Gaza Strip
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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2003-06-10 12:29 pm|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Hope they nailed a big one. Question: If they froze all contacts with Israel, would that be bad for Israel? Discuss
Posted by Frank G  2003-06-10 12:40:27||   2003-06-10 12:40:27|| Front Page Top

#2 "If at first you don't succeed..."
Posted by mojo 2003-06-10 12:50:13||   2003-06-10 12:50:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Hope this means the gloves are off the IDF and it's "Hamas Season" with no bag limit. Good luck and good hunting.
Posted by Mike  2003-06-10 13:01:26||   2003-06-10 13:01:26|| Front Page Top

#4  No way Franky, that works out best for Israel.
I gives them the "They aren't willing to negotiate" card. Mazen knows better. And, more importantly, Arafat knows better.
Posted by Mike N. 2003-06-10 13:02:10||   2003-06-10 13:02:10|| Front Page Top

#5 Rantissi is part of the political arm of Hamas. Israel claims (almost certainly correctly) that he helps choose targets as well as helping develop public affairs releases. Israel does not claim that Rantissi does any logistical or weapons design or terrorist training work (it seems likely Rantissi is in the terrorist funding biz but probably there isn't any documents on this). The US Govt. has criticized Israel's attack on Rantissi but using language which says that Israel "should defend itself but.." Abbas has made the assertion that targeting Rantissi is itself terrorist. It seems to me that the practical way to handle this is to have the Egyptians move in and give Rantissi the same love and attention they've given to the Moslem brotherhood in Egypt, but this requires the Egyptians to agree to it.
Posted by mhw 2003-06-10 13:05:11||   2003-06-10 13:05:11|| Front Page Top

#6 The best outcome, of course, is peace. However, it could possibly be that Hamas and their allies will be immolated in the coming weeks as the IDF rolls up Hamas and Hezabollah.

This is speculation: It is altogether possible that Abu Mazen is providing the intel for these Israeli missile strikes, and explains why settlements are still being dismantled even amidst talk of continueing war.
Posted by badanov  2003-06-10 13:45:39|| [www.rkka.org]  2003-06-10 13:45:39|| Front Page Top

#7 To badanov: I doubt that the Abu Mazen (M Abbas)has much useful Intel to provide the IDF. He probably does help thwart the terrorist financial capacity - which is at least something. However Hamas, at least in Gaza, is a very deep pocket group with funds (and in kind goods) contributed weekly by thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of the followers of Yassin.
Posted by mhw 2003-06-10 16:16:58||   2003-06-10 16:16:58|| Front Page Top

#8 mhw - but gaza is Dahlan's area of relative strength too, so it doesnt seem impossible that dahlan fed them something. after all, he apparently knows hes high up on both hamas' and arafats list of enemies.

if sharon was trying to undermine the road map, he would likely have at least suspended the dismantling of outposts. Theres more going on here than meets the eye, i think
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-06-10 16:42:31||   2003-06-10 16:42:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes liberalhawk, Dahlan would have known where Rantissi was going and when. but if Dahlan really wanted Rantissi killed, Rantissi would be dead. I doubt Dahlan cares much about Rantissi at all really. The people Dahlan cares about are the anti Dahlan part of Hamas, Islamic J, etc.
Posted by mhw 2003-06-10 20:21:01||   2003-06-10 20:21:01|| Front Page Top

#10 Use bigger missiles.
Posted by tu3031 2003-06-10 22:35:09||   2003-06-10 22:35:09|| Front Page Top

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