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2003-09-02 Iraq
Facing the truth about Iraq
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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2003-09-02 20:50|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Fred---posting and commenting on Boston Glob(e) articles will cost Rantburg big time in megabites, but not as much as a typical Murat posting with its cornucopia of comments. Heh heh.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-9-2 8:58:01 PM||   2003-9-2 8:58:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Fred -- Love your comments.

Someone is confused. The war in Iraq is WON. What is happening there (as expected) is the war on Terrorism. Does this alledged person feel that we should hide under our beds and allow 9/11 to happen over and over and over again?

And when it does happen this guy (and Kerry and Gepheart) will be whining about "why didn't Bush do something about it! Lets have a congressional hearing!".
Posted by GregJ 2003-9-2 9:37:26 PM||   2003-9-2 9:37:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Yo Fred, that's the neatest little summary of the fall of the Roman Empire I've ever seen. Run out and read Eagle in the Snow by Wallace Breem.

Greg: Here's the alleged person's bio:

http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/authordetail.cfm?authorID=1380

Looks like he really enjoyed protesting Vietnam and is sticking with what he knows.
Posted by Matt 2003-9-2 9:47:23 PM||   2003-9-2 9:47:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 The "Bush Lied" meme has gone nowhere and is being replaced by "Bush Lost". I expect to hear a lot of harping of this one over the next few weeks. I wonder what they will come up with after this one fails to take off.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-2 10:05:18 PM||   2003-9-2 10:05:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Dear James --

Hum --- looking for a Pulitzer Prize with this writing? Don't think it will even be entered.

Seems, you've read what I have --- that it was the "American people" that took to the streets and press, that brought us down in Vietnam.... and, sharing that glory places you back with those folks of the 60's....

Well.... there are some of us, from those days, that got with program, and never could understand where all the hatred was coming from. I saluted those guys coming home..... my first love was one of those.....

Now..... thanks to the Net.... you can back in time.... and repeat all those writings of that era. Yes, you did a simple Google search and found just the words you wanted. Nothing original in your thoughts – you’re words read like those I read in the late 60's... If I wasn’t so into my “senior” years, I could probably do an extensive search.. and find all your words, already put together. You want an original thought? Each day, search forth on the Web, and you will find, those stories of success happening everyday, over there, with our guys and gals.... Try that approach.... It will bring you closer to that Pulitzer Prize you seem to hold as the gold. Yes — if I were a “journalist” of the “national papers of claim”.... wanting that gold medal of the Pulitzer, in these times.... I would take the opposite attack of every one else!!!!!!! Yes, become a standout as the one being different! Sheeezzz.... and become part of the truth, as you begin to stand out...

You are in a minority here... and in a minority you will stay and stand..... 'Cause..... unlike those days of the 60's (I was there) we have 9-11.....

And nothing... nothing.... compares to what happen to us.... on 9-11....

So tuck you tail between your legs.... and go home.... silently..... we promise to be careful with you... to "feel your pain."
Posted by Me 2003-9-2 10:31:38 PM||   2003-9-2 10:31:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 This guy continues the great Boston Globe tradition of hack columnists and is part of the reason the paper's becoming a joke up here. He'll be spouting the party line til the day he dies. The beautiful people this rag appeals to will eat this up, but as far as I'm concerned, all the Globe's good for is as a great tool to pick up dogshit when I take the mutts for their walks. Haven't read it in years. Even their sports guys have political agendas. Ridiculous.
Posted by tu3031 2003-9-2 10:53:37 PM||   2003-9-2 10:53:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Man, it doesn't take much for some people to turn into complete cowards, does it? Four whole bombs? Wow! Katy bar the door and let's skedaddle! It's no longer amazing to read what guys like this write: it's predictable. A setback or two or three and it's over, the unbeatable Baathists cannot be stopped! Run, Run, Run Awaaaaay!!!
Posted by R. McLeod  2003-9-2 11:39:38 PM||   2003-9-2 11:39:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 And to think, somebody actually pays this guy for his verbal diarrhea. [[shaking head vigorously]] No wonder the East Coast is in such trouble!
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-9-2 11:49:59 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-9-2 11:49:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The 68 Tet was a major US victory. We did not see any Viet Cong units larger than fire team or squad sized very often after the Tet. We decimated their command structure and killed most of their best cadre and leader. After 68 most of the combat units we saw in the field were NVA units. At one time, the NVA had all but one of their combat ready divisions in the south with para military and militia providing security in the north.

Tet of 68 was a public relations disaster and the first example of the media shaping perceptions contrary to reality. Much as they are twisting Iraq into a perceived failure now.

We had more 18 year olds drop dead of drug overdoses last year than we have lost in combat in Iraq. We on average have more kids killed in drive by shootings in the US last year than have been killed in Iraq. And more interestingly, the Baathist have killed more Iraqi citizens in the three bombings, UN HQ, Najaf and Baghdad police station than all of the US casualties in the conflict to date.

Because of my experiences, kicking the VC's and the NVA's ass in Viet Nam and having Congress sell RVN down the drain by prohibiting military aid to RVN. ( I bet you don't remember that the collapse in the SOuth was percepitated in large part by a cut off of military aid to the south) and now reading essentially the same editorials, dusted off with "Iraq" substituted for "Viet Nam".

Much like Korea, we should be carpet bombing Manchuria Syria and Cambodia Lebanon instead of limiting our military options to when they actually start shooting at us.

We should run all of the media out of Iraq, take the gloves off and finish this thing and then when we get it cleaned up, the bodies buried and the blood washed from the sidewalks, then let the little dimwitted little leftist back in to whine and complain and try to dig up some atrocity or other.
Posted by SOG475  2003-9-2 11:52:32 PM||   2003-9-2 11:52:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Seeing as how it's the Boston Globe he probably bootlicks for NORAID too
Posted by Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire 2003-9-3 12:06:31 AM||   2003-9-3 12:06:31 AM|| Front Page Top

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