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2003-09-11 Iraq

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Posted by Steve 2003-09-11 9:15:04 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 They get damn fast used to the coca cola culture indeed!

Posted by Murat 2003-9-11 9:40:49 AM|| 2003-9-11 9:40:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 And isn't it GREAT, Murat?!!! But I should inform you that Europe has porn down to an art the rest of the world can't compete with. If you don't believe me, take a trip to Amsterdam or Hamburg. Nowhere in the US (that I'm aware of) can compete.

Only the whiskey and democracy left. Hell, the prioritization's up to them. Basra used to be renowned for its clubs and casinos. Looks like that may be true once again. And won't their neighbours hate it?

Posted by Bulldog 2003-9-11 9:49:03 AM|| 2003-9-11 9:49:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, when the alternative is the Mecca Cola culture, where the only publicly acknowledged sex is Uday raping your daughter, your apt to switch rather quickly.

Posted by af 2003-9-11 10:06:19 AM|| 2003-9-11 10:06:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 So, how did they get them in? Via Iran??? Kuwait, which was going over to Shari'a around 9/11/01?

Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-11 10:33:41 AM|| 2003-9-11 10:33:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Nah, all they need is for the Mafia to roll in and start charging Imans protection money on all the mosques. After all, it's a dangerous place and they wouldn't want any more "Holy Houses of the Mentally Deranged" (TM) to blow up now would they?

Posted by Paul 2003-9-11 10:34:45 AM|| 2003-9-11 10:34:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 what iraq needs isnt porn.

and what Iraq needs isnt a crackdown on porn.

What iraq needs is debate, argument, among Iraqis, about whether and how they should regulate porn. and when theyre done debating, let them vote. And IF they decide to censor, the censorship had pretty damn well follow legal procedures, with the opportunity to defend in court, etc. And folks who want to argue to loosen the censorship had better have the right to so argue. No Council of Guardians, thank you very much.

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-9-11 11:29:18 AM|| 2003-9-11 11:29:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Hey, go easy on 'em, LH. These guys've been through a lot lately. If they think they need porn, they need porn. It's not hurting anyone, and the wimmin probably appreciate the leerier eyes being pointed elsewhere.

Let them have porn, beer, teevee, the lot. Without censorship. They won't go to the dogs, they'll be thinking like Westerners in no time.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-9-11 11:59:33 AM|| 2003-9-11 11:59:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 LH >>> I agree with you, however, we both know damn well that the Imans and their thugs will just go into action. Even if Iraq does emerge into a middle eastern democracy, it'll just be a target for takeover both internally and externally. The rest of the muslim world will turn it's back on them and most likely sanction takeover attempts to "save" them from the evil western powers.

Posted by Paul 2003-9-11 12:29:04 PM|| 2003-9-11 12:29:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Bulldog - The benefit of letting them vote on it is like the benefit of letting a child touch a hot stove. All the men will hypocritically vote to get rid of porn (out of fear that Saddam and Allah are watching), and then six months later will be scratching their heads and saying, "S@#% - what was I thinking? I didn't know my ACTIONS would have CONSEQUENCES." And they'll hopefully remember the lesson when it comes time to choose between the pro-freedom president and the Koran-thumper.

Posted by Sade 2003-9-11 1:31:59 PM|| 2003-9-11 1:31:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, I agree that in principle it's a good idea, but in practice there are more important issues. It wouldn't be auspicious if Iraq's first re-democratization was "whether or not to ban or censor jazz-mags." Besides, give 'em more than a taste of freedom now, and they won't want to vote for restrictive government in the future.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-9-11 2:07:42 PM|| 2003-9-11 2:07:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Why does the phrase"Balls to the wall"come to mind?

Posted by raptor 2003-9-11 2:38:40 PM|| 2003-9-11 2:38:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I'd be gaurding the porn theatres now. The radicalists will call it 'sinful' and try to blow it up.

That is, if they aren't watching with the Iraqi's.

Also, Europe does have the porn industry down. Child porn, that is. Not the pictures, but the movies and 'handouts'. I even hear it's LEGAL at some places over there. Disgusting, no?

Posted by Charles 2003-9-11 2:49:41 PM|| 2003-9-11 2:49:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 When I first saw the headline for this article, I thought a porn shop had been boomed.

Posted by Katz 2003-9-11 5:13:47 PM|| 2003-9-11 5:13:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Charles, I'd be extremely surprised if that sort of thing was legal anywhere in Europe, though I suppose the sexual age of consent will vary between countries, as it does for purchasing alcohol. PS What's a 'handout'?!

Katz, LOL what an image. Nope, I don't think they'd be wise to try that approach.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-9-11 6:06:20 PM|| 2003-9-11 6:06:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 "Charles, I'd be extremely surprised if that sort of thing was legal anywhere in Europe, though I suppose the sexual age of consent will vary between countries, as it does for purchasing alcohol."

I wonder if Aris or someone else could enlighten us as to why the EU wouldn't enforce a UNIFORM age of consent when it comes to issues such as this?!?

Posted by Flaming Sword 2003-9-11 6:23:35 PM|| 2003-9-11 6:23:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Makes much sense to me. One of the first things the East Germans did when the wall came down was to storm the porn shops in West Berlin.

Posted by True German Ally 2003-9-11 9:43:55 PM|| 2003-9-11 9:43:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 "Hand-outs", and this is absoulely revolting, are basically runaway and homeless children rented out as sex slaves. I don't know fore sure if it's legal anywhere, but I do know it happens in Eastern Europe. This is also where alot of the internets Child Porn Industry comes from.

Posted by Charles 2003-9-11 10:38:29 PM|| 2003-9-11 10:38:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 But they heard all of the women in the were JOOOOOOOOOS. Watch out for that sticky spot

Posted by Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire 2003-9-11 11:27:04 PM|| 2003-9-11 11:27:04 PM|| Front Page Top

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