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2003-12-02 Middle East

Bushâs Middle Eastern Quagmire and Apocalypse Future

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Posted by phil_b 2003-12-02 7:48:49 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Last I checked the Harpoon missile doesn't have a range greater than 150 miles (SLAM-ER was supposed to replace these for anti-ship capability). Take this whole article with a can of salt.

Posted by Valentine 2003-12-2 7:58:29 PM|| 2003-12-2 7:58:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Israel has Dolphin subs - there are many comments about a month ago on this...also they may have cruise missiles

Posted by Frank G 2003-12-2 8:01:14 PM|| 2003-12-2 8:01:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I seriously doubt that any US president would ever hand over a US nuclear weapon to any foreign power, or the arming codes that go with it.

Posted by john 2003-12-2 8:10:27 PM|| 2003-12-2 8:10:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I found several recent articles using GOOGLE.
Israel has three of the German made Dolphins. Two were donated in 1997 and Israel bought the third one.
Isreal tested cruise missles capable of carrying nuclear weapons in 2000. Israeli defence sources claim the country has secretly carried out its first test launches from submarines of cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. The launches last month from German-built vessels in the Indian Ocean were designed to simulate swift retaliation against a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Iran. the article is here.
I'm sure that Super Hose and some other have a lot more info, but this is a start.

Posted by Gasse Katze 2003-12-2 8:17:30 PM|| 2003-12-2 8:17:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 This report embodies some seriously industrial-strength paranoia. American nukes simply given to Israel, for use against Iran? That's pretty damn far out.

Oh, well; at least we've got the bastards scared.

Posted by Dave D. 2003-12-2 8:26:19 PM|| 2003-12-2 8:26:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I seriously doubt that any US president would ever hand over a US nuclear weapon to any foreign power, or the arming codes that go with it.

The UK gets its nuclear weapons from the USA and has done so for many years. I think it goes back to an agreement that incorporated the UK's nuclear weapons program into the USA's program in exchange for the US providing nuclear warheads to the UK.

Posted by phil_b 2003-12-2 8:28:02 PM|| 2003-12-2 8:28:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I hardly think the Israelis need us to give them nukes. They've got their own.

Posted by Pete Stanley 2003-12-2 9:41:10 PM|| 2003-12-2 9:41:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 The LA Times, pass the salt please, reported on Oct 12 2003 that Israel had modified US Harpoons to carry Israeli nuclear warheads.

U.S. and Israeli officials have declined directly to address this news report.

The Los Angeles Times reported Oct. 12 that two senior Bush administration officials said Israel has modified U.S. Harpoon cruise missiles, which can be launched from submarines, to deliver nuclear warheads. The paper added that an Israeli official confirmed the American statements. All three spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Although Israel refuses to confirm or deny whether it possesses nuclear weapons, it is almost universally recognized as having built up an atomic arsenal. Typical estimates of the arsenalâs size range from weapons numbering in the high tens to a couple hundred. Israel fields medium-range ballistic missiles and U.S.-supplied fighter aircraft capable of delivering nuclear weapons.

The Arms Control Today article is here.

Posted by Gasse Katze 2003-12-2 9:41:11 PM|| 2003-12-2 9:41:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Israel has two other sub-launched missile types besides the Harpoon.

Posted by Pappy 2003-12-2 10:32:20 PM|| 2003-12-2 10:32:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 This "report" is total BS!I like the nice way the author(s) try to dazzle with bull as in following-"...confirmed by a senior aide to Bush National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice...".Looks impressive,until you realize the aide is not named,that there is not a single person actually named who is involved.The only facts in story are Israel has subs that can fire cruise missiles and the US stores nukes at Diego Garcia.Using the same type of facts I can report that THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS SOLD NUCLEAR-TIPPED HARPOON CRUISE MISSILES TO JAPAN TO HELP PAY FOR IRAQ RECONSTRUCTION.
I can confidently report that US Navy ships routinely refuse to admit they are carrying nuclear-tipped Harpoon into Japanese ports.With few countries willing to pay the costs of the US occupation of Iraq,the right-wing Bush Administration is looking for money.After watching Bush abandon the successful policy of President Clinton in negotiating w/North Korea,Japan has become worried over N.Korea's reactions to American provocations.A devil's bargain was then struck-the US sold 24 nuclear-tipped Harpoons for retalitory use from JSDF destroyers.A senior aide to American Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has refused to comment on whether US ships entered Japanese ports with Nuclear-tipped Harpoons or left Japanese ports without nuclear-tipped Harpoons.

Posted by Stephen 2003-12-2 11:57:44 PM|| 2003-12-2 11:57:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 #11
Keee-ristmas Steven. I think you have found a way to run up your hit counter, if you have one. The Liberal Left Loonies will be quoting your story as fact for years to come. Links will follow.
Well done. I wish I could write like that.

Posted by Larry Everett 2003-12-3 12:35:03 AM|| 2003-12-3 12:35:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 #,11 &12,
I meant Stephen.
Sorry 'bout that.

Posted by Larry Everett 2003-12-3 12:46:29 AM|| 2003-12-3 12:46:29 AM|| Front Page Top

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