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2003-12-02 Middle East

King Abdullah II Calls For a civilized model for tolerance...

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Posted by Traveller 2003-12-02 1:40:50 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Look a couple of stories down... Steve White bit into it a little bit for ya ;)

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2003-12-2 2:36:11 AM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2003-12-2 2:36:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Dearest DPA:

I know, I know...Steve White does this better than almost anyone. And yet, as much as the Fisking is fun...I have always had some hope for
King Abdullah. He has the possiblity of making a real difference in the Middle East, (Of course, how much of a difference has Queen Noor, American born and his mother, made in the King's life?)

Also, on November 12, the King of Morocco said:

"How could we hope to ensure the progress and prosperity of a society," asked King Mohammed VI last month, "while its women, who constitute half therein, see their rights pushed aside, and suffer injustice, violence, and marginalization in disregard of the right to dignity and equity that our sacred religion confers upon them?"

I realize that matters are proceeding at a glacial pace...But both of these King's get a full two thumbs up from me.

Be Good,

Traveller

Posted by Traveller 2003-12-2 2:58:24 AM|| 2003-12-2 2:58:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The King is also politicing for the soon-to-be-open post of Guardian of the Sacred Sites. When the House of Saud goes down the crapper, the King is number one as successor if he stays our friend. Makes sense, we get a relatively progressive ruler and the Moslem world gets a Guardian with a legitimate heritage for the post.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2003-12-2 8:46:21 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2003-12-2 8:46:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Traveller-
Queen Noor is not Abdullah's mother. His mother was an earlier wife of King Hussein.

Posted by Spot 2003-12-2 8:55:36 AM|| 2003-12-2 8:55:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Tolerance means something different to most Muslims, it means we will tolerate non-muslims in our Islamic society, but you will be second class citizens.

Posted by TS 2003-12-2 9:11:14 AM|| 2003-12-2 9:11:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree with TS. If the best you can do is call for mere tolerance - and that's considered revolutionary - then you have a long way to go before you and your people can be considered real human beings.

Posted by BH 2003-12-2 10:49:03 AM|| 2003-12-2 10:49:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 BH - along way to go before you can be considered real believers in democracy, certainly, but real human beings? Tolerance was revolutionary in Europe 350 years ago - surely you dont mean that say, Louis XIV of France, or King Charles of England were somhow not real human beings?

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-12-2 1:13:08 PM|| 2003-12-2 1:13:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 'Tolerance' to the islamofascists means you're allowed the chance to convert to islam before you are killed.

Posted by stuckinthe7thcentury 2003-12-2 3:53:25 PM|| 2003-12-2 3:53:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I'd like to think that Abs in Jordan and Mo in Morrocco could be decent philosopher-kings. Set stuff up, build democracy, then sit back and play cricket all day. Don't see it happening in Jordan because 70% of the people are Paleos, and they don't take to democracy too well (from what I've heard). Maybe in Morrocco, as long as Mo doesn't get himself killed in the next 20 years or so.

Posted by Steve White 2003-12-2 6:26:52 PM|| 2003-12-2 6:26:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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