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2004-01-22 Europe

France ~~scumbag~~ eases rift with United States

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Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-01-22 8:18:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 As far as i can tell the sniping is almost entirely one way. Yes Rummy made his "old Europe" comment but beyond that the US has let the Europeans snipe and bash and thrash about. If they want to repair relationships they should stop talking about repairing relationships and instead stop the sniping.

Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-22 9:55:24 AM|| 2004-1-22 9:55:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 One-way sniping? Hey, who changed "french fries" to "freedom fries"? And just check out any rant here mentioning anyone french, and then tell me americans dont snipe at the french. In Europe, no-one cares about this ridiculous petty bickering. All France did was to incite this fury from the US was to question whether it was prudent to go to war without the consent of the UN. Nothing else. And look what happens, they are derided as scumbags, cowards, asshats etc etc, even if they are pro-american.
Way to alienate yourselves internationally, you bloated, inbred, cowardly, waddling-targets-for-suicide-bombers!

Posted by euroboy 2004-1-22 10:40:44 AM|| 2004-1-22 10:40:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I realize it's a troll, but active lying needs to be countered:

All France did was to incite this fury from the US was to question whether it was prudent to go to war without the consent of the UN. Nothing else.

Wrong. France openly blocked the UN from approving action. France openly worked to keep other nations from voting with the US, and blatantly declared it would veto any measure that resulted in action.

That's not just "questioning", that's active opposition.

I can't say I'm amazed at the ignorance the troll demonstrates, but I am amazed it feels comfortable revealing that ignorance in public.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-1-22 10:59:59 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-1-22 10:59:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 No problem, Euroboy. Enjoy sharia.

Posted by Anonymous 2004-1-22 11:01:21 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:01:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, actually, euroboy, France did a lot more than that. It told Powell one thing privately and then sandbagged him in public at the UN. It overtly lobbied among 3rd world nations to oppose the US, going so far as to threaten that Turkey's potential to join the EU would be destroyed if they allowed bases to be used by US troops. There's a lot more, but we'd run out of bandwidth if I and others took the time to detail it all.

Posted by rkb 2004-1-22 11:03:08 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:03:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Words to live by, #14,327:
When word and deed conflict, believe the action every single time.

Posted by mojo 2004-1-22 11:03:11 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:03:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 All France did was to incite this fury from the US was to question whether it was prudent to go to war without the consent of the UN. Nothing else.

Wow! Whirling dervishes. They did not just question. They stood in the way with their impotent, impish, idiocy. Why? Because 1) The French clearly were conflicted between their friendship with Sammy and their oil contracts. And 2) Trying to prove to the world that they remain a force to be reckoned with.

Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-1-22 11:07:12 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:07:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 RC, do you think 'euroboy' (& keep those sneer quotes right where they are) is really Dominique de Villepin trying to assert his sexuality?

Posted by nimrod 2004-1-22 11:23:10 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:23:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 EUboy wrote: All France did was to incite this fury from the US was to question whether it was prudent to go to war without the consent of the UN. Nothing else.

France said that it would NEVER go to war in Iraq REGARDLESS of circumstances -- that is, they would veto any resolution at the UN Security Council. That means no UN approval. Clever how that works, eh?

France WAS in this for the oil: Chirac and TotalFinaElf had billions of sweetheart contracts with Saddam for southern Iraqi oil fields and development. Add in the surrepetious arms sales, the money France skimmed off in the "Oil for ~~Palaces~~ Food" program, and the close contacts between the Chirac administration and Saddam, and you can see why France didn't want a war. And why they tried to undermine our efforts all the while claiming to be "friends".

You should understand something, EUboy (and I'm trying to be nice): the American people will not tolerate this sort of hypocrisy from those who claim to be our friends. The anger you see here about France is real and it's reflected across our country (except for the radical left, of course). France failed twice: it failed to stop us from liberating Iraq, and it caused average Americans to reconsider just why in the hell we'd want the French as our "friends" in the first place.

That's quite an accomplishment for Chirac.

Posted by Steve White 2004-1-22 11:25:09 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:25:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 EuroboyFrance said(in plain lanquage for everybody in the world to understand)that France would veto any resolution authorizing force.(inspite of res:1441 already authorizing force)

How's that bullet hole in your foot?

Posted by raptor 2004-1-22 11:31:04 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:31:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Euroboy makes me laugh. I'm a Euroboy, too, and the French are considered asshats by most Estonians as well. Remember "you missed a good opportunity to shut up"? Well, we do. Sounds like the days under Moscow to us. If you don't think the new EU countries aren't going to be backing the likes of Poland and Spain over France on future issues, they're up for a rude awakening.
After treatment like that, the new EU states aren't going to be "led" by "our betters," who only follow the rules only when it suits them.
Nice cheeses, they've got, though.

Posted by Baltic Blog 2004-1-22 11:36:13 AM|| [http://balticblog.blogspot.com] 2004-1-22 11:36:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Euroboy:
I might have believed you five years ago, but now we have bloggers like Merde in France and Dissident Frogman that translate the anti-American filth that appears in the French papers of record like Le Monde and Liberacion every single day. No French bashing like that appears in the NYT or WAPO. None at all.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-1-22 11:38:37 AM|| 2004-1-22 11:38:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 " you bloated, inbred, cowardly, waddling-targets-for-suicide-bombers!"
Frankly, I expect better retorts from trolls here at Rantburg. Show some creativity. You seriously bore me Euroboy.

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-1-22 12:32:36 PM|| 2004-1-22 12:32:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 " you bloated, inbred, cowardly, waddling-targets-for-suicide-bombers!"

Not great but a passing 6.5

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-22 12:39:25 PM|| 2004-1-22 12:39:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Baltic Blog, "nice cheeses", Yes indeed! EU bony boy. I've been to France. They are as puffy as anybody I see in the US but a little more pungent. The French can't even win their own bike race anymore (without doping like Richard Verenque) and none are even able to carry Lance's water. Buy the way Bony Boy, do your roomates feel the same way?

Posted by Lucky 2004-1-22 12:44:48 PM|| 2004-1-22 12:44:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 All France did was to incite this fury from the US was to question whether it was prudent to go to war without the consent of the UN. Nothing else.

now please name just one instance where france went to the un before launching military operations in africa?

Posted by Dan 2004-1-22 1:38:20 PM|| 2004-1-22 1:38:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Wow. A fat joke. Now I see why our bureaucrats are so keen on getting us merkins in shape. They must get stinging remarks like this hurled at them at international conferences.

How ever will I go on...

Posted by eLarson 2004-1-22 1:50:25 PM|| 2004-1-22 1:50:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Euroboy, you're the same kind of delusional cheese-eating surrender monkey that made me start boycotting French products in the first place. No changes? F*&$ off. The boycott stands!

Posted by Tom 2004-1-22 2:12:48 PM|| 2004-1-22 2:12:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Euroboy, I'm only counting governmental sniping. Yes the US Congress changed French Fries to freedom fries and Rumsfield called France and Germany "Old Europe". Compare that to the comparisons we've heard about Bush being dumb, a cowboy, a warmonger, and other vile stuff and it appears you are either deaf dumb and blind to sniping coming from Europe or you are simply uneducated.

I'm betting its a bit of both.

Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-22 2:17:05 PM|| 2004-1-22 2:17:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Euroboy, now if you want to count the civilians in the Fray lets talk about the bestsellers in France that claim the US actually attacked itself in order to wage war on the world. There is sniping, and then there are verbal nukes.

France has not been a friend of the US since the end of WW2. France is ashamed that they had to be liberated by English speaking peoples, and they need to get over themselves. Being the anti-America gets you knowhere, try being France for a change.

Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-22 2:20:59 PM|| 2004-1-22 2:20:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 As an aside to what ~~butt~~Euroboy mentioned here, I came across a statistic the other day, and have been giving it deep thought: the United States has approximately 290 million people, and 200 million guns. Disregarding the few million people who own more than one weapon, there's a lot of US Citizens not pulling their fair part of the load here. We need to talk to these folks. An armed populace is not only a polite populace, it's much more difficult to play terrorist games with people who shoot back.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-1-22 2:59:22 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-1-22 2:59:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 waddling-targets-for-suicide-bombers

LOL. I think euroboy may be of Palestinian origin. Oh and BTW: "bring it on!"

Posted by Rafael 2004-1-22 4:36:33 PM|| 2004-1-22 4:36:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Old Patriot, I'm chagrined to admit that I am one of those not pulling their fair share. This will be corrected soon...

Posted by BH 2004-1-22 4:47:11 PM|| 2004-1-22 4:47:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Disregarding the few million people who own more than one weapon

What?

We have many weapons, my favorite is sneering and snaping... wait.. that's two.

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-22 4:53:02 PM|| 2004-1-22 4:53:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Is that you again Murat?

Posted by Bodyguard 2004-1-22 5:20:45 PM|| 2004-1-22 5:20:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I don't think so Bodyguard. Murat was much quicker on the draw. Much more the droll troll.

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-22 6:07:32 PM|| 2004-1-22 6:07:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Euroboy? That's sounds so...gay.

Posted by tu3031 2004-1-22 9:17:57 PM|| 2004-1-22 9:17:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 As a blogger at "A Small Victory" says, "We can't just ignore France... what other country rhymes with underpants? (credit: reader Wisacre)

I see London
I see France
I see Chirac's
underpants

Are they yellow?
Are they pink?
All I know is that they STINK!

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-1-22 11:57:07 PM|| 2004-1-22 11:57:07 PM|| Front Page Top

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