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2004-08-27 Iraq-Jordan

LtCol in Charge of Interrogators Blamed for Loss of Control

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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-08-27 11:43:06 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Just as long as it wasn't one of our Steves . . .

Posted by tibor 2004-08-28 1:51:06 AM|| 2004-08-28 1:51:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This is a story that would never seen the light of day in WWII but continues to have legs because of our "progressive" navel gazing post modern society.

If this is a WOT, wherein our survival hangs in the balance, who gives a flying leap what methods are used re: enemy POW's to save us from disaster?

Oh yes...tsk, tsk...I see the shaking of the judgemental heads...we are above this "primitive" sort of thing...or, if we do this to the enemy, then it puts our troops at risk if they are captured...tsk, tsk...cleaning of the monacyle ensues...

I wish the whistle blower had never done his good Christian thiny. I did not want to hear about the abuses of the Geneva Convention Act. Quite frankly, I could care less.

Here's the ultimate big loser in the WOT picture from my point of view. It's not Lt. Col. Steven Jordan who is trying to his best under the circumstances to save his fellow GI's. It's that sanctimonious affirmative action walrus, Janis Karpinski who is looking out for herself and not for you or me or soldiers in Iraq.

Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, who ran the military police side of the detention operations, said she was surprised that Jordan was spending so much time in the lockup and not enough in the task force office making sure reports were processed, according to documents

Karpinski is looking out for #1. Jordan has good intentions to fight the WOT.

Why engage in asymmetrial warfare if we are not ready for the challenge? If we are worried about what other thug-run UN hellholes think, I think we should stay isolationist.

Posted by rex 2004-08-28 2:23:49 AM|| 2004-08-28 2:23:49 AM|| Front Page Top

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Here's the ultimate big loser in the WOT picture from my point of view. It's not Lt. Col. Steven Jordan who is trying to his best under the circumstances to save his fellow GI's. It's that sanctimonious affirmative action walrus, Janis Karpinski who is looking out for herself and not for you or me or soldiers in Iraq.

I knew this article would get a comment like this. Badanov, your turn.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-08-28 9:06:10 AM|| 2004-08-28 9:06:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I knew it was your post before I saw the byline, Mikey

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-28 9:10:21 AM|| 2004-08-28 9:10:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 We knew the blame would get lost along the looong "chain of command", but to use "loss of composure" as an excuse is too much.

Posted by Gentle 2004-08-28 9:13:37 AM|| 2004-08-28 9:13:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I saw the article and as soon as I did I just knew Sylwester posted the thing.

Here's the ultimate big loser in the WOT picture from my point of view. It's not Lt. Col. Steven Jordan who is trying to his best under the circumstances to save his fellow GI's. It's that sanctimonious affirmative action walrus, Janis Karpinski who is looking out for herself and not for you or me or soldiers in Iraq. I knew this article would get a comment like this. Badanov, your turn.

This is a lot more than just three or four times, but I will try to explain myself without using baby talk, Mikey. Maybe this time you'll get it.

In all the posts I have ever made about Gen. Karkinski, I have never, ever referred to her in any disparaging way. This officer is serving in a warzone and is a helluva lot more than I ever did in military service. I have never used any epithets, insults, or any term that could remotely be construed as disparaging or disrespectful to her either as an officer in the US Army or as a female. Ever. You got that this time, Mikey?

The only thing I have ever said was this officer lost control of her prison, lost control of her command in a war zone and for that she should have been relieved of command and there the matter should rest.

And I believe that to this point as well. Gen. Karpinski has shown herself in subsequent media references to be a disloyal officer and a loose cannon. Consider those disparaging terms for a female? They're not, but they are career enders for a military officer.

Gen. Karpinski, for the good of the service, should resign her commission or shut up until these matters are resolved.

Posted by badanov 2004-08-28 9:35:20 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-08-28 9:35:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#7
I read your comment, Badanov. Fair enough.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-08-28 10:51:36 AM|| 2004-08-28 10:51:36 AM|| Front Page Top

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