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2004-12-17 Home Front: Culture Wars

Indiana Jones leads Hollywood version of battle for Falluja

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Posted by Steve White 2004-12-17 12:56:52 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Interesting, if they do it right.

Posted by Omater Chomock1599 2004-12-17 1:23:20 AM|| 2004-12-17 1:23:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 What are the odds?

Posted by mojo 2004-12-17 1:30:10 AM|| 2004-12-17 1:30:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 This little tidbit caught my eye:

"That first assault, which was abruptly stopped by the White House, was led by General Jim Mattis, who will be played by Ford."

I call bullshit. Total Bullshit. Another half-assed dizzy as a drunk blonde version of reality from Al Guradian's Editorial Wankers. The stop order came from the US, alright, because the Sunnis in the pre-Interim Gov't - a broad spectrum council of idjits - went apeshit and the MSM lapped it up with a spoon generating the usual clap-trap stories of genocidal mayhem. Remember? And the US acceeded to their wishes, despite the stupidity of it. We were apparently trying to generate at least some goodwill from the zipperheads then in positions of influence - IIRC a group that couldn't agree on diddley-squat, tried to torpedo the Constitution, and generally proved itself too factional to be worth warm spit. Basically, Allawi was the only good thing to come from it - and he was far better than we dared hope for, given the other aspects of their brief reign.

Spin removed, this was the sequence:
2004 Apr 6, U.S. Marines launched a major assault on the turbulent city of Fallujah.

2004 Apr 10, Iraqi government negotiators entered the besieged city of Fallujah...

2004 Apr 11, US forces and insurgents agreed to a cease-fire in Fallujah.

As for Bing West, I'll google him later to see if he's the real deal or unworthy to bask in the light of our people - I don't much like his quote at the end - it sounds theatrical and ham-handed. He is, after all, dealing with Hollyweird and that seems to send some people over the edge, if they aren't already.

Posted by .com 2004-12-17 1:48:33 AM|| 2004-12-17 1:48:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 "The plight of the Iraqis" means the viewpoint of the terrorists and their shills at Al Guardian. This sympathetic euphemism implies that the Euro-bigots' neo-Goebbelist view is the only valid one for "thoughtful" people, something the primitively gullible masses of Eurabia define in terms of their adherence to the backward and fossilized 1970s media tropes that still prevail in that benighted region of the world.
In particular, this piece seeks to establish an equivalence between US views of the conflict and a Hollywood fantasy, eg Indiana Jones. This inference is reinforced by referring to Ford as though he actually is Indiana Jones, thereby connecting the latter character to the new movie and, in turn, making this equivalent to the non-Guardian view of the conflict.
The Euro-masses and Brit-bigot chatterati will buy this kind of idiocy and Goebbels style manipulation wholesale, and think themselves superior for doing so.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-12-17 2:31:49 AM|| 2004-12-17 2:31:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Indy is getting a bit long in the tooth for such a role. Musta ran out of Tom Clancy movies.

Posted by Capt America 2004-12-17 2:38:46 AM|| 2004-12-17 2:38:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 May want to throw in a bombing run on Syria and Iran has part of the ending...just to be proactive.

Posted by Capt America 2004-12-17 2:40:18 AM|| 2004-12-17 2:40:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Replaced by this Hollyweird twitter. And, BTW, Ford is, indeed, one of them.

P.S. Ben, baby, you shouldn't piss off the Photoshop crowd, heh.

Posted by .com 2004-12-17 2:43:00 AM|| 2004-12-17 2:43:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 There should be considerable accountability on the movie moguls getting this right, given the sacrifice of our soldiers, they better not screw it up.

Posted by Capt America 2004-12-17 2:44:01 AM|| 2004-12-17 2:44:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Ford is one of them all right, but he is not a complete idiotarian, especially by Hollyweird standards. He turned down the part of conspira-loon/crook Jim Garrison in the Oliver Stoned fantasy JFK for example.
The role went instead to Kevin Costner, one of several bad calls Costner made in wrecking what had been a promising career.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-12-17 7:24:34 AM|| 2004-12-17 7:24:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 The ray of hope here is that the book is by Bing West, a former Marine and a co-author of the The March Up, a book about the First Marine Division's campaign in March/April of last year. West is also the father of Owen West, who IIRC was a force recon Marine in the campaign and is himself an author (Sharkman Six, a novel about the Marines in Somalia.)

Now, what Hollywood will do with the material is another matter. I assume the fluffy bunnies and baby ducks will be computer generated, and that Sean Penn will play the doctor at the Fallujah hospital.

Posted by Matt 2004-12-17 7:33:19 AM|| 2004-12-17 7:33:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 AC - You dont think that Hollywood gives a flying fark about our soldiers do you?

I'm willing to give it the benefit of a doubt since it is being writte by an ex-marine but I'll also look for children flying kites and direction by Mike Al-Moore (who hollywood considers an 'expert' on the Iraq war.....).

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-12-17 9:47:55 AM|| 2004-12-17 9:47:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Indy is getting a bit long in the tooth for such a role.
He's about the right age to play a General. You can see a current picture of Lt Gen James N. Mattis here. He's currently serving as Commanding General of the Marine Corp Combat Development Command.

Posted by Steve 2004-12-17 9:58:03 AM|| 2004-12-17 9:58:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Hollywood will probably conduct it with the same accuracy and success as they did Alexander The Great.

Posted by 2b 2004-12-17 10:01:41 AM|| 2004-12-17 10:01:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 oh great, Gen Mattis as bisexual?

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-17 10:09:11 AM|| 2004-12-17 10:09:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Ya know, I used to totally have the hots for HF. Then he lost his mind along with his hair. Gah.

Posted by Seafarious 2004-12-17 10:10:05 AM|| 2004-12-17 10:10:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Frank, LOL, and an Irish accent. Maybe they'll hire some Marines as consultants. "Here, Mr. Affleck, lemme show you a trick you can do with a K-Bar."

Posted by Matt 2004-12-17 10:34:31 AM|| 2004-12-17 10:34:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Re: that picture. Pardon me while I turn sixteen again.

Ohmigod he is SO. CUTE. squeeeEEEEal!

There. I'm back. Agree about the hair, Seafarious. I think he just suddenly had it all cut off one day, and then he wasn't nearly so hot. You must admit, for an actor, his anti-war statement is pretty calm and reasonable.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-12-17 2:35:15 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2004-12-17 2:35:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#18

"I donât think military intervention is the correct solution," he said. "I regret what we as a country have done so far."

What would the alternative have been? Twelve more years of sanctions?? Please.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-17 2:58:25 PM|| 2004-12-17 2:58:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Hey Solo stick to spice running your real political views show you to be nothing but a wookies' bitch.

Posted by Rightwing 2004-12-17 5:30:34 PM|| 2004-12-17 5:30:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 as a political thinker, he's a great actor....

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-17 5:31:55 PM|| 2004-12-17 5:31:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Ford's comments remind us why script writers still have jobs. Otherwise, the actors would have to come up with their own words.

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