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2004-12-22 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Steve 2004-12-22 9:11:03 AM|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I hope AB is running a special on ThunderBird.

Posted by Shipman 2004-12-22 9:35:37 AM|| 2004-12-22 9:35:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sympathetic members of the left are reminded to generously give them their styrofoam leftover containers when stepping over them, as they exit the restaraunts.

Sympathetic member's of the right are asked to contribute at least $20 to the local homeless shelter.

Posted by 2b 2004-12-22 9:46:51 AM|| 2004-12-22 9:46:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 where would you send the card?

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-22 9:46:57 AM|| 2004-12-22 9:46:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Tape it to a lightpole on Skid Row.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-22 12:05:38 PM|| 2004-12-22 12:05:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Resident
Cardboard Box #3
UnderTheBridge, USA

Posted by Steve 2004-12-22 12:32:05 PM|| 2004-12-22 12:32:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Not sure why but there is an increase of bums (aka homeless people) in downtown Sacramento. It might be that my building has exhaust ports near the street and they are congregating more near my office to keep warm. Usually there is one or two bumâs pan handling in the morning, but this week there have been four or five. I also suspect that the change in San Franciscoâs policy on homeless has sent some of them packing. That city no longer gives cash assistance to the homeless. Seems that after they started to give cash assistance there was an explosion of homeless entering the city. It also might be because of the illegal war and anti-worker policies of the Bush administration? JK ;-)

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-12-22 12:55:02 PM|| 2004-12-22 12:55:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I only got half-way through the article and could not take the pc b.s. anymore. My sympathies for those who have been torn down by the circumstances of life but continue to press on is high. My sympathies for for those who have been torn down by the circumstances of life but continue to wallow in their own misfortune is low.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-12-22 1:09:06 PM|| 2004-12-22 1:09:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Anyone who has worked with the homeless knows that 99 percent of the time homelessness exists when drug and/or alchohol abuse, or mental illness is a factor.

There really is no excuse for homelessness due to 'circumstances of life.' It amounts to plain old bad decisions made.

Fortunately, the good news is that help is available to those who really want it.

I have zero sympathy for bums. They don't want sympathy or help. They just want the next drink or rock.

Posted by badanov 2004-12-22 1:29:42 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-12-22 1:29:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Badanov is right: the leaders of a very successful inner city ministry in Atlanta distinguish between the unfortunate poor and the lazy poor: the Media hold up the former, although it is the latter that consume the bulk of resources.

One of the most dangerous studies ordered by President Reagan was a spectral time analysis of welfare handouts. It turns out its a dumbbell curve, with the first hump centering at about 6 months, and the second around when it started in the 60's. This accorded with their assertion that a majority of people work their way through welfare in about 6 months.

I knew a gentleman who used to be homeless: he lost his wife from cancer, and the poor man simply couldn't cope with a job and his grief. After about a year, he finally worked through it, crawled out of the car he slept in, got a job, and re-entered society.

Posted by Ptah 2004-12-22 1:51:24 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2004-12-22 1:51:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I was in SF four years ago and lost any desire to go back after seeing the pro-homeless policy. I heard bums lying on sleeping bags outside the Marriott verbally assault passing women. Drunks vomiting while I waited to ride the cable cars. And lots of and lots of homeless wandering or laying about. I also felt my safety at risk walking around after dark, which I had not felt before on previous visits. I have no simpathy for Political Correctness, when it infringes on an ordinary person's rights to a clean, safe, and orderly, urban environment.
Bums and Hobos, which is what many of these people are, used to not be tolerated in most cities and towns and life for the majority of ordinary people was a lot more pleasant.

Posted by DO 2004-12-22 3:27:34 PM|| 2004-12-22 3:27:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I was in SF four years ago and lost any desire to go back after seeing the pro-homeless policy.

Hell, I live fifty minutes away from there and I keep my jaunts into that craphole to a minimum. If it were not for the excellent dim sum available in Chinatown, I'd have no reason whatsoever to go there, period.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-22 4:30:31 PM|| 2004-12-22 4:30:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Don't recall too many of these stories when Clinton was president. I'm sure it's just coincidence.

Posted by Raj 2004-12-22 5:21:09 PM|| 2004-12-22 5:21:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Me too bomb, but beyond the homeless problem there are some cool sites in SF. China Town, Little Italy, The Wharf, and Pier 39. I am taking the family there next week.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-12-22 5:36:33 PM|| 2004-12-22 5:36:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I don't feel as though our government really cares about the homeless- after all they don't vote and are not counted in our census. WHO CARES tends to be the overall attitude of many.
# 8 & # 9 you are correct in your analysis and your etiology.

I have thought about persuing the idea of a U.S. postage stamp symbolizing the homeless. The money would go to housing effort's - Keep 'em off our streets. They are a social problem- often get blamed for crimes they did not commit~~ no lawyer to represent them correctly etc The problem's for those folks never end. It cost all taxpayer's plenty to support them.

Andrea Jackson

Posted by ANdrea 2004-12-22 6:32:04 PM|| 2004-12-22 6:32:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 hint Andrea? Don't make it a scratch and sniff stamp

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-22 6:44:00 PM|| 2004-12-22 6:44:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Jeez, you guys are cold.

I love it.

Thanks for the tip on where to send the card, BAR. :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-12-22 8:09:58 PM|| 2004-12-22 8:09:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 # 8 & # 9 you are correct in your analysis and your etiology.

Great.

Now, I need a f*ckin' bath.

Posted by badanov 2004-12-22 10:14:21 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2004-12-22 10:14:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't feel as though our government really cares about the homeless- after all they don't vote and are not counted in our census.

It isn't that the government doesn't care - it's that the government can't do anything constructive.

It can't compel the mentally ill to get treatment, or ensure they take their medications.

It can't compel the drug-addicted or alcoholic to go into a treament program, or confine them for acts that any middle-class taxpayer under the influence would get nailed and humiliated for.

It can't make those who like living in the street clean up, get a job and stop living off the dole.

"Housing efforts"? How long do you think such housing would stay intact?

And btw, nothing constructive will happen, because many so-called homeless advocates and their political'judicial supporters need their charges for both use as fundraising tools and political weapons.

Cold? Maybe. Angry at such unthinking? Yes.

Posted by Pappy 2004-12-23 12:03:26 AM|| 2004-12-23 12:03:26 AM|| Front Page Top

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