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2004-12-22 Iraq-Jordan
Evidence of suicide bomber in Mosul mess hall attack
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Posted by Dar 2004-12-22 10:23:04 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Oops--should go Page 1.
Posted by Dar  2004-12-22 10:30:28 AM||   2004-12-22 10:30:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Makes sense. The notion of a 122 scoring a direct hit on the first shot seems more than improbable.

Now, class, where do we find suicide bombers? Not among the insurgents don't you know. And how do they get to Mosul? Let's all say, "through Syria" together.

Syria target bombing at 0300 hours.
Posted by Capt America  2004-12-22 11:16:43 AM||   2004-12-22 11:16:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 As the true experts on suicide bombings are our "mutual friends" the Pali's, I suggest the CIA
should try to track where that fuckwit boomer got his training.
Posted by EoZ 2004-12-22 11:22:41 AM||   2004-12-22 11:22:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 bomb Syria up into the stone age ...
Posted by legolas 2004-12-22 11:26:42 AM||   2004-12-22 11:26:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Legolas: "bomb Syria up into the stone age ...
"


Uh, you need to pick something OLDER...they're already IN the fucking stone-age.

We need to start by leveling whole sections of Mosul where we have good intelligence that the bad guys are holed up. Not attack, not surround...just level.
Posted by Justrand 2004-12-22 11:33:50 AM||   2004-12-22 11:33:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I have no love for Syria.

However, I think we found that in Fallujah the foreign component of the terrorism campaign was not as large as expected. Indeed if this suicide bomber was working at the base he was almost certainly an Iraqi, not a Syrian.

What we maybe need is to set up a prison camp in Kurdistan and have the Kurds query the Sunni prisoners.
Posted by mhw 2004-12-22 11:39:55 AM||   2004-12-22 11:39:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 justrand I agree with you ...that's why I said bomb them "Up Into" the stone age, they are behind the stone age ... and mhw ... the terrorists are being commanded and supplied by former baathists in Syria ... and Syria knows this ... they either kick em out or face the consequences .. it is time to take the gloves off
Posted by legolas 2004-12-22 11:53:51 AM||   2004-12-22 11:53:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 < suicide vest > Now THIS I can believe (followup from yesterday's post)

Was there an attitude shift when the 101st left this area?
Posted by Dave 2004-12-22 11:54:58 AM||   2004-12-22 11:54:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 mhw, theres still uncertainty about the number of foreigners in Fallujah, esp. among the dead. Apparently we only IDed them as foreign if they actually had passports or other ID on them indicating so, otherwise they were assumed, provisionally to be Iraqi. I really doubt EVERY foreign jihadi in Fallujah carried ID.

In any case, those were the "infantry" - ive heard it widely that the suicide bombers tend to be foreigners.

OTOH that by itself doesnt PROVE a Syrian connection. But I sure hope we're looking real hard for it.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-12-22 12:00:29 PM||   2004-12-22 12:00:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Dave - i dont know about an attitude shift, but apparently a reduction in coalition forces. 101st was replaced with a brigade, IIUC.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-12-22 12:01:34 PM||   2004-12-22 12:01:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Correct LH. Hard to understand why there was not hot pursuit from Fallujah into Ramadi, Latifiyah and Mosul.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-22 12:06:55 PM||   2004-12-22 12:06:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 There WAS Mrs. D. USMC went into Ramadi, major assault on Latifiyah and rest of triangle of death. Troops were still needed to finish clearing Fallujah, and Baghdad takes alot of troops. Not much left for Mosul, I guess.

Food for thought, Id say.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-12-22 12:11:14 PM||   2004-12-22 12:11:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 In an earlier post (yesterday) I refered to the bastard as a suicide bomber ... change that to homicide bomber. Forget Syria, hell, he was probably trained in Ramallah or Gaza. On second thought forget Syria lets just bomb hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
Posted by legolas 2004-12-22 12:14:57 PM||   2004-12-22 12:14:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Sorry Legolas...I missed the "up" part. :)

It is truly time for a demonstration of power! Right now the average Iraqi is more afraid of the terrorists than of us. We need to reverse that equation.

If your town is peaceful we re-build it, and life is good. If your town harbors terrorists then we level your town...and life is MUCH worse! Choose!
Posted by Justrand 2004-12-22 12:25:37 PM||   2004-12-22 12:25:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I agree justrand
Posted by legolas 2004-12-22 12:34:17 PM||   2004-12-22 12:34:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Right, suicide boomlets likely derived from Gaza and Ramadi. Last I checked, however, the gateway is called Syria.

The Fallujah matter: one of the discoveries found in Fallujah was a passport forgery capability, where foreigners (read Jeehodies) could be documented as Iraqi insurgents and such. Now, why (you may ask) would Jeehodies want to be documented as Iraqis? Answer: to conceal Syria's role as the Jeehody gateway.

Syria target bombing commences at 0300 hours.

--Roger that

Posted by Capt America  2004-12-22 1:35:15 PM||   2004-12-22 1:35:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Going all Waffen SS on an entire town is going to do nothing but cause more sympathy and support for the terrorists. I have no problem with leveling a house if our troops are receiving fire from inside, but flattening an entire neighborhood will only mean we're the murderous barbarians the LLL is portraying us to be.

I'm angry and want payback too, but I want it targeted right at the a**holes who are causing this. Treating an entire population as hostile is the way to ensure they are hostile.
Posted by Dar  2004-12-22 2:39:46 PM||   2004-12-22 2:39:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 An independent Kurdistan comprised of eastern Turkey, northern Syria, and western Iran looks better and better. The Peshmerga would know how to respond to this. The Kurds are the only folks in the sandbox with their acts together, and loyalty should have its reward.
Posted by SR71  2004-12-22 2:48:10 PM||   2004-12-22 2:48:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 SR71

In an ideal world I would support your proposition and you know what, in the sucky world we live in your proposal is probably pretty damn good also. However, the kurds themselves are probably still hoping for a federal democratic and law abiding Iraq. In my darkminded and sob er hours I can't see how this happens, but maybe, if I have enough alcohol, the federal scenario will seem right.
Posted by mhw 2004-12-22 3:59:51 PM||   2004-12-22 3:59:51 PM|| Front Page Top

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