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2004-12-22 Iraq-Jordan
Clemency sought for Ohio Guardsmen
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Posted by Steve 2004-12-22 11:47:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Isn't scrounging for parts a time-honored military tradition? What is it with the persecution?
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-12-22 12:49:47 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2004-12-22 12:49:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 ZF, true, scrounging usually involves petty plunder. Stealing two tractors & two trailers that some other unit was prolly going to use when they came back from the front is a tad beyond the time honored tradition. One would have to get the "rest of the story" on this to make a better decision. Jail time seems extreme to me though.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-12-22 12:57:03 PM||   2004-12-22 12:57:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Indeed Zhang it is. In the Air Force they alwyas have a 'Hanger Queen' that is used for spare parts. And I used to do my own fair amount of scrounging (aka Stealing) to make our unit more confortable. I agree with Durbin that the punishment does not fit the crime.
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-12-22 12:58:47 PM||   2004-12-22 12:58:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 IANAMP (I am not a military person), but from my military friends and blog reading, it seems to me that the Army National Guardsmen get the short end of the stick in just about everything, from training to equipment to the way they integrate in with the regular Army. I'm not surprised that their recruiting numbers are down.
Posted by Seafarious  2004-12-22 1:18:52 PM||   2004-12-22 1:18:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 As I understand it, not only did they "scrounge" equipment belonging to another unit, they then made every attempt to remove all identifying marks and lied several times about the situation.

One of the people was a major and another was a CWO. Hardly wet behind the ears. I think they got what they had coming.
Posted by Chuck Simmins  2004-12-22 3:45:28 PM|| [http://blog.simmins.org]  2004-12-22 3:45:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 CS: As I understand it, not only did they "scrounge" equipment belonging to another unit, they then made every attempt to remove all identifying marks and lied several times about the situation.

Isn't erasing all evidence is the first rule of scrounging? It's not exactly a good idea to flaunt one's liberation of other units' property in their faces.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-12-22 4:11:44 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2004-12-22 4:11:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 The first ever SAS raid? On a New Zealand camp whose occupants were off elsewhere, in Egypt in 1941. They stole the whole thing, including the tents...
Posted by Bulldog  2004-12-22 6:29:52 PM||   2004-12-22 6:29:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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