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2004-12-28 Europe

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Posted by Dutchgeek 2004-12-28 02:56|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The Dutch, dominated by leftist thinking, thought that by allowing unlimited immigration into their tiny country and unlimited access by immigrants to perpetual welfare, that millions of new votes for leftist policies would be assured. Now it's too late to undo the damage.

Posted by HV 2004-12-28 10:24:21 AM|| 2004-12-28 10:24:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Better late than never.

Posted by gromgorru 2004-12-28 12:01:51 PM|| 2004-12-28 12:01:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 It is not so much "leftish" thinking but a culture that has been dominate since the late 15th century. Remember it was Holland who was tolerant of the Puritans/Pilgrims that eventually settled in America. And it was in Leiden at the university that the foundations for American style tolerance and liberty were founded then exported to New Amsterdam/New York. This is nothing recent for the Dutch but finally, they are reaching a zenith of tolerance and diversity when they allowed the Islamist to come in but not assimilate.

Posted by Jack is Back 2004-12-28 12:59:15 PM|| 2004-12-28 12:59:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Excellent observation, Jack. Tolerance has a very difficult time combatting willful subversion, just as America's open society somehow enables terrorist operations within our borders. I think the Dutch are finally beginning to discover that even tolerance has its limits, especially when people are turning that tolerance directly against those who show it.

Posted by Zenster 2004-12-28 1:15:46 PM|| 2004-12-28 1:15:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 The Dutch are tolerant, but also extremely leftish and statist by our standards. If you've ever experienced the crowded conditions of Holland you would wonder why they thought it was a good idea to allow lots more people in.

Posted by HV 2004-12-28 1:40:30 PM|| 2004-12-28 1:40:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "Tolerance? There are houses for that"

Posted by JFM 2004-12-28 3:06:52 PM|| 2004-12-28 3:06:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Lol, JFM... I was thinking something along the line that "tolerance", though this might give heart palpitations to the PC crowd, isn't always a good thing. Consider Islam, for example...

Posted by .com 2004-12-28 3:10:20 PM|| 2004-12-28 3:10:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I'll argue that, .com. Tolerance is a wonderful thing, it alone is responsible for plurality and healthy cultural diversity.

What isn't a "good thing" are cultures who think that they can abuse such tolerance in order to take advantage of a society that does not mandate assimilation. Such opportunistic, and essentially predatory, cultures must be identified for what they are. Namely, the enemy of peaceful coexistence.

Tolerance is not the problem, proper detection and perception of subversive ideology is. Be it Islamism, communism, theocracy or Nazism, such totalitarian mindsets will always be the enemy of any free and open society.

Islam, in particular, is making what amounts to zero effort towards assuring that its adherents assimilate into their adoptive cultures. Such an insular and societally noncohesive mentality should be treated with suspicion and face expulsion.

Posted by Zenster 2004-12-28 3:25:31 PM|| 2004-12-28 3:25:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Immigration without assimilation is colonialism. No two ways about it.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-12-28 6:06:18 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2004-12-28 6:06:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 The posted article was a superb job of reporting.

Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-12-28 11:55:58 PM|| 2004-12-28 11:55:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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