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2005-01-24 Home Front: Tech
Finally - why women can't read maps
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Posted by tipper 2005-01-24 6:55:24 PM|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Did they say why men can't ask for directions on those occasions when they can't read the maps?
Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-01-24 8:37:43 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2005-01-24 8:37:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 "...in later life women can speak 20,000 to 25,000 words a day compared to a man's 7000 to 10,000."

Gosh... I never knew that!
Posted by Dave D. 2005-01-24 8:49:52 PM||   2005-01-24 8:49:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 it's the multi-tasking - we're stubborn assholes have trouble with that
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-24 8:50:15 PM||   2005-01-24 8:50:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 anybody tell Harvard President Summers?
Posted by mhw 2005-01-24 8:56:54 PM||   2005-01-24 8:56:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 yes but they were women scientists, so he didn't listen
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-24 9:03:47 PM||   2005-01-24 9:03:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Correction..

"...in later life women can speak 20,000 to 25,000 words a day in a single sentence compared to a man's 7000 to 10,000 all day."
Posted by Captain America  2005-01-24 9:07:29 PM||   2005-01-24 9:07:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Personal experience: I read maps very well (I even made some in college).

From my experience training ambulance attendants (vol. rescue squad), I can tell you that both men and women have a problem reading maps. It's been about equal in my trainees, and those who didn't learn very well were also deficient in other areas.

I think it's mostly about training and incentive to learn. For instance, I'm a bit of a control freak, so I always want to know where I'm going and what the alternate routes are. And I'm not willing to trust someone else to take care of it unless I know from experience they're good at map-reading and thinking in terms of alternative routes in case of problems on the main route.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2005-01-24 9:27:14 PM||   2005-01-24 9:27:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Barb - good point - I know guys I wouldn't trust to park my car...
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-24 9:32:14 PM||   2005-01-24 9:32:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Of the people who've been with me travelling, the two who were actually the best navigators were both women. I'm always a bit skeptical with "brain scan" studies like this, and wonder how much is just cultural expectations steering people in a particular direction.
Posted by Dave D. 2005-01-24 9:38:30 PM||   2005-01-24 9:38:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I've never had trouble reading a map. At least, one that's accurate.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-24 9:43:50 PM||   2005-01-24 9:43:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Another good question to ask is, just because something shows up on brain scans of 25 year old women (or 12 year old girls), doesn't mean it wasn't the result of socialization and reinforcement instead of the result of some sort of genetic destiny.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-01-24 9:52:19 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2005-01-24 9:52:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 researchers performed a series of brain scans on 26 female and 22 male volunteers Bad science, guys, unless the purpose was to support the grant proposal for the definitive study. A study like this needs a huge base to account for the fact that the variation within each sex is about as broad as the average variation between the sexes. I conform to stereotype in this matter, Barbara and all those female engineers out there do not. And I don't think socialization factored into my own lack -- my father had me map out directions for every single bloody new location he drove me to, until I escaped to the college dorm, and I'm still hopeless as a co-pilot.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-24 10:51:08 PM||   2005-01-24 10:51:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Do a survey of 2nd Lts next... seems no gender bias there at all - the only difference I ever saw is that the West Pointers will be damn sure they know where they are and not listen at all when told where they REALLY are, especially by a corporal or sgt.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-24 11:12:58 PM||   2005-01-24 11:12:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Do a survey of 2nd Lts next... seems no gender bias there at all - the only difference I ever saw is that the West Pointers will be damn sure they know where they are and not listen at all when told where they REALLY are, especially by a corporal or sgt.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-24 11:12:58 PM||   2005-01-24 11:12:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-24 11:12:58 PM||   2005-01-24 11:12:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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