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Posted by Steve 2005-06-14 11:48|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Hopefully he went home last night and sucked down a jug of Drano.
Posted by tu3031 2005-06-14 16:39||   2005-06-14 16:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Who gives a shit?
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2005-06-14 17:23||   2005-06-14 17:23|| Front Page Top

#3 I saw at the supermarket today two different magazine cover stories about a "War" between Jessica Simpson and Lindsey Lohan, or a war between Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise and his new gf...

Last week a Saudi blew himself up at a funeral at a mosque in Kandahar, Afghanistan. About twenty or so mourners were killed.

I'm beginning to think part of our problem is that we're starting to think the former two manufactured fake-news items are real but the latter is just a police problem.

I don't mean to be snippy to anyone, but I come here to try to get away from the bullshit news items like the Michael Jackson case, however disturbing it may be.

(Hell, it's disturbing that they're still classifying him in the hominids, if you ask me...) OTOH, it is on Page 3... maybe we need a Page 4, for the icky stories that will make you want to take a bleach shower afterwards?
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-06-14 17:54|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2005-06-14 17:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Hey I read somewhere that he may be defaulting on a loan and that he put up his Beatles collection as collateral, oh yeah.
please please please me
Posted by Jan 2005-06-14 18:00||   2005-06-14 18:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Look, he's like a gory traffic accident, or a circus freak show. You can't help looking, even though you know you shouldn't and you feel like you ought to take a hot shower with lots of carbolic soap afterwards. I think he's gonna fall into the same category as ol' whatsis face... the football player, charged with killing his ex-wife and a friend of hers? Yeah, a jury found him innocent too, but he was poison, as far as endorsements and stuff went, after that. More than poison, more like glow-in-the-dark radioactive. Yeah, he may be free, but he's untouchable, by anyone that might be a means of making a paycheck.
Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom  2005-06-14 19:00|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com]  2005-06-14 19:00|| Front Page Top

#6 I suspect the next we hear of M.Jackson will be when he finally loses all pigment and corporeal presence and becomes the invisible man (or lady....this is a while to come, and he's got impulses)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-06-14 19:09||   2005-06-14 19:09|| Front Page Top

#7 This is the flaw in the US system: Peopel treat a "Not Guilty" verdict as if it is an "Innocent" verdict.

Jacks was not "Innocent", nor was he "Not Guilty" - it was that the case was NOT PROVEN.

There should be 4 verdicts available:

Guilty - no doubts at all. Not even fairly unreasonable. These cases are air tight, supported by physical evidence, corroborated by witnesses (and not stoolies), and enable the harshest penalties prescribed for the crime to be applied, up to and including life without parole and the death penalty.

Proven - beyond reasonable doubts although some unreasonable ones may remain (i.e. no death penalty nor no-parole may be issued)

Not-Proven - There was insufficient evidence, or there were reasonable doubts (and if so they should be listed). Or else the case is dismissed on a technicality Basically, this provides a record of arrest and charges, which CAN be brought for sentence consideration if there are subsequent convitions on the same or similar charges.

Innocent - There are no dobuts that the person did not commit the crime. The record is expunged, the person brought to trial has all the legal and court fees paid by the state, and they get restitution for any loss of income during the trial and any incarceration (as does their employer for loss of services). The person gets a letter of apology from the DA as well (makes it personal for the DA to not bring charges carelessly).

This eliminates the forever-appeals for death sentences, and gives a way to add weight to sentences for guys who just scrape by until they get caught again and are finally convicted. They also provide true exoneration for the innocent. And they give death-pentaly opponents on the jury a way to convict a killer and not crossing their conscience, instead of letting one go free.

We need to fix the justice system.

This is one way.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-06-14 20:08||   2005-06-14 20:08|| Front Page Top

#8 I believe Scotland has the "Not Proven" verdict.
Posted by Tom 2005-06-14 20:19||   2005-06-14 20:19|| Front Page Top

#9 OS - Your post is damned good - generating a *slaps forehead* response from me. Where would double-jeopardy fit into it? I heard some talking head types rattling on about how this verdict puts to rest, permanently because of double-jeopardy, the most serious charges from almost all of his primary accusers - i.e. - he's walking away (from jail, anyway) scot-free.

Then I heard Juror #1 say that he personally believed that Jackson was, indeed, probably a pedo who has done the things for which he was charged, but that the prosecution had failed to prove its case.

As soon as I read your post, it struck me that this Juror would whole-heartedly agree with you. Of course the Social Engineers will never allow serious discussion of the matter, but something along the lines of what you've presented would certainly make the vast majority of Americans feel as if "the system" made more sense, worked for them, etc. because it would address that unsettling realization after a circus like this or the OJ murders that something is seriously wrong with it.

Thx for your post!
Posted by .com 2005-06-14 20:25||   2005-06-14 20:25|| Front Page Top

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