Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Fri 08/05/2005 View Thu 08/04/2005 View Wed 08/03/2005 View Tue 08/02/2005 View Mon 08/01/2005 View Sun 07/31/2005 View Sat 07/30/2005
1
2005-08-05 Israel-Palestine
Jordan says Gaza pullout must extend to West Bank
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Steve White 2005-08-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 â€œThe withdrawal from Gaza should constitute the successful start and prelude to the withdrawal of Israel from the West Bank and the setting up of a viable independent Palestinian state,” he was quoted by the state news agency Petra as telling Mofaz.

No.

Israel pulls out of Gaza, then everybody watches what happens as a result and an appraisal is made then. The Paleos don't get a "viable state" by default, as they haven't proven that they have any sense of responsibility, nor have they proven that they can wean themselves of their seemingly ingrained tendency to resort to violence as a first response.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-05 00:40||   2005-08-05 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 If you give away everything before the negotiations start what the hell is left to negotiate the pre-67' 49' whatever. Not to mention how can you negotiate with someone that has no authority to do sh*t. The first thing would be for the Paleo leader X to prove he actually has authority by making a 1month cease fire actually have a cease of fire in it not just less fire. Once that was established then you could begin to actually negotiate.

Now once this is plan above is in place no negotiations because I doubt anyone can control the Paleo's with authority so how to get a leader to take control and negotiate and have the people's support. 1st someone has to lose Isreal is hated already in the world so Isreal should tell the world to stick it and just announce that every terrorist attack will result in more Paleo's being forced to exit territory while Isreali settlers move in (start with the border areas to secure a solid defendable border not a jig jog they have now. At first it would intesify the conflict then the Paleo's would realize they will be pushed to the borders of W Bank and Gaza if they dont stop the terror. A leader will step forward and stop the terror and negotiate. War has to have concequences the Paleo's feel they have reached the bottom and can lose nothing else no matter that should be proven wrong and Isreal should prove that the Paleo's can and will lose what little they have left if they continue. Consequences then the terror will stop or the Paleo's will be pushed to citie sized prisons on the border or scattered to the four corners of the earth. Either way at some point negotiations would come from the paleo's and peace and stop of the war would be the terms not more more more more then walk on water or die.
Posted by C-Low 2005-08-05 11:01||   2005-08-05 11:01|| Front Page Top

#3 The King of Jordan has no standing in the negotiations, unless he is willing to guarantee the peacefulness of the West Bank as a de facto Jordanian territory. Just as Egypt stands as guarantor - for what that's worth - for peace in the Gaza Strip.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-05 22:44||   2005-08-05 22:44|| Front Page Top

#4 These mooks haven't even proven they can run a township let alone the Gaza Strip. After they establish authority and stop all attacks on Israel for 6 months to a year, then, maybe they can talk. Until then, King Guy, STFU.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-08-05 23:38||   2005-08-05 23:38|| Front Page Top

23:54 God Save The World
23:47 Lone Ranger
23:40 phil_b
23:38 Sock Puppet 0’ Doom
23:33 PlanetDan
23:32 2b
23:24 2b
23:16 Ptah
23:12 trailing wife
23:07 Laurence of the Rats
23:05 trailing wife
23:05 DanNY
23:03 Jackal
23:03 trailing wife
22:59 DanNY
22:54 DanNY
22:44 trailing wife
22:41 Robert Crawford
22:40 Robert Crawford
22:27 trailing wife
22:23 CrazyFool
22:23 Edward Yee
22:16 Bobby
22:15 trailing wife









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com