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2005-08-16 Fifth Column
It's All Over for "Over There"
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Posted by Steve 2005-08-16 10:30|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'm not so sure it makes sense to broadcast an accurate depiction of how our troops move in firefights, etc. It may not be 'secret' but why give the enemy 'training tapes' on what to expect. (Closer to home, cops like it when tv shows have bad guys looking 'cool' holding their pistols horizontally while shooting.)
Posted by glenmore">glenmore  2005-08-16 12:05||   2005-08-16 12:05|| Front Page Top

#2 The problem is that most of the mistakes built into the scripts make our soldiers look unprofessional, undisciplined, profane and / or of poor morale.
Posted by leader of the pack 2005-08-16 12:09||   2005-08-16 12:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Just like in "Stripes"!
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-08-16 12:11||   2005-08-16 12:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Get yer Homeboy Night Sights here.

Regards the show - I watched it once. It was just silly - no flank security, people wandering around alone in a firefight, yadda³. That the Hollyweird folks didn't consult with real Iraq troopers is par for fools, no? Chris Gerolmo, who wrote Mississippi Burning BTW, is prolly just too busy to deal with such things - and didn't think it mattered. Heh, dramatic license works great - when there aren't a phreakin' half million people who know better, lol.

I'd rather read Michael Yon, myownself.
Posted by .com 2005-08-16 12:25||   2005-08-16 12:25|| Front Page Top

#5 Hopefully Over There will be over. That show is a pathetic excuse for a TV slot to begin with, then not even close to showing the reality of military life. Hopefully it goes bust and FX looses lots and lots of money.
Posted by mmurray821 2005-08-16 12:39||   2005-08-16 12:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Why not show actual brave men and woment instead of some homogenized, hollyweird version? At a minimum, our courageous returning service people should have been on-the-set consultants (bringing in a few high price coins for their families to boot).

If they really gave a shit, they would have started and ended with the soldiers' perspective.

Posted by Captain America 2005-08-16 15:45||   2005-08-16 15:45|| Front Page Top

#7 LOTP: The problem is that most of the mistakes built into the scripts make our soldiers look unprofessional, undisciplined, profane and / or of poor morale.

Civilians don't know from Adam. How would they tell the difference? Some Brit reporter covering Afghanistan reported the mad dash for cover during an ambush as panic-stricken retreat. His idea of combat may resemble Rambo the movie, where the bandoleered hero advances slowly forward while untouched by enemy bullets whizzing by.
Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei  2005-08-16 15:57|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-08-16 15:57|| Front Page Top

#8  LOTP: The problem is that most of the mistakes built into the scripts make our soldiers look unprofessional, undisciplined, profane and / or of poor morale.

Civilians don't know from Adam. How would they tell the difference?

Ask their technical advisor. The intention of the media is to "make our soldiers look unprofessional, undisciplined, profane and / or of poor morale." We will soon see a half a dozen big screen movies making exactly this point. They will flop. Then Mel Gibson will make the movie that will make him king of the new Hollywood.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-08-16 16:06||   2005-08-16 16:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Mel Gibson's Production Company is Icon... Looks like there's no public stock offering, unfortunately...
Posted by .com 2005-08-16 16:16||   2005-08-16 16:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Sorry folks the left and MSM are winning the propaganda war. Look at the poll numbers. Look for the cut and run passed off as a suscess in Iraq and fascist attacks on the west to get worse not better. The people running the war on terror are not winning the propaganda war the fascists and their mirror twins the TRANZIs are.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-08-16 16:24||   2005-08-16 16:24|| Front Page Top

#11 I haven't seen the show but this sounds like the military version of pissed off cops, doctors, lawyers, etc. at how they are portrayed on TV. There is an added factor of these guys putting their lives on the line during a time where their home country is politically in a war of words with each other. I personally wouldn't have given the go ahead for a show like this in the current climate, but I'm not a TV producer.
Posted by Chris W.">Chris W.  2005-08-16 20:28||   2005-08-16 20:28|| Front Page Top

#12 Watched the first episode and thought it a pretentious crock of shit, what a coke-addled lefty thinks a war movie should be. The show crammed every cliche from every WWII and vietnam movie you have ever seen into a plot that could have been written in the bar of the Palestine Hotel. No resemblance to reality.
Posted by RWV 2005-08-16 22:52||   2005-08-16 22:52|| Front Page Top

#13 The show is IRAQ = VIETNAM as protrayed or defined by the ant-US DemoLeft, where treason = patriotism and laissez faire = gulag/death camp, etc. The COCA-COLA CO. is even showing its GIVE THE WORLD A COKE commercial again. WHEN WILL US LEFTIES LEARN THAT IF AND WHEN COMMUNISM TAKES OVER AMERICA, AND LIKE IFF UNDER ISLAMISM, DEM DAR ALTERNATISTS, BOHEMIANS, HEDONISTS, and ............HIPPIES/YIPPIES, etc are all going back into the closet andor RE-EDUC CAMP as your PC usefulness as patsies for the Commies is OVER - WHY? HOW? 'CUZ THE HISTORY OF COMMUNISM SAYS SO, THATS WHY, THATS HOW!? THE MAD MULLAHS = COMMIES > WILL KILL ALL OF YOU. NOW OR LATER!
Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-08-16 23:54||   2005-08-16 23:54|| Front Page Top

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