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2005-10-31 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Gaza may turn into prison camp - Palestinian leader

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Posted by Steve 2005-10-31 08:26|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Prison camp? Is that better or worse then refugee camp?

Posted by tu3031 2005-10-31 08:50|| 2005-10-31 08:50|| Front Page Top

#2 I agree with Steve. Prison imples rules, regulation and regular vists by guards. Free-Fire zone is a much more accurate description. Esp. after they started using arty.

Posted by 3dc 2005-10-31 08:28|| 2005-10-31 08:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Good fences make good neighbors.

Posted by Besoeker 2005-10-31 09:08|| 2005-10-31 09:08|| Front Page Top

#4 May turn into?

Posted by Spot">Spot 2005-10-31 09:29|| 2005-10-31 09:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe they can use Gaza as the set for a remake of "Escape from New York".

Posted by SteveS 2005-10-31 10:05|| 2005-10-31 10:05|| Front Page Top

#6 I think asylum is the english word he's searching for.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2005-10-31 10:35|| 2005-10-31 10:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Perhaps the PA should offer to evacuate all women, children and unarmed men from Gaza, so that only armed men remain. Any man on the West Bank caught with an unauthorized firearm would be internally deported, with his weapon, to Gaza. In this way, the PA would completely control the West Bank, and the armed men could kill each other in the chaos and the rubble of Gaza to their hearts' content.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-10-31 10:59|| 2005-10-31 10:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh, and Israel could turn loose all of its violent Paleo prisoners to Gaza, too.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-10-31 11:00|| 2005-10-31 11:00|| Front Page Top

#9 South Korea? I'll bet Mr. Al-Kidwa spends a lot of time on the road until things settle down back home.

Posted by DoDo 2005-10-31 14:14|| 2005-10-31 14:14|| Front Page Top

#10 How many tin-cups could a C-17 drop per sortie? 30,000?

Posted by Shipman 2005-10-31 14:51|| 2005-10-31 14:51|| Front Page Top

#11 "Tin Cups"? In VHS or DVD?
If it will help, I'm all for this. I'd even get you the wholesale rate...

Posted by Kevin Costner 2005-10-31 15:14|| 2005-10-31 15:14|| Front Page Top

#12 Hogan!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-31 15:32|| 2005-10-31 15:32|| Front Page Top

#13 The Israeli's are colonialist butchers. This is a real issue. The slow suffocation of a people (by a "people" no less) is a real issue.

You clever folk.

May 24, 2002
Palestinian Enslavement Entering a New Phase
http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/?articleid=796

Posted by willtotruth 2005-10-31 16:33|| 2005-10-31 16:33|| Front Page Top

#14 Is it just me, or do all the nicknames that profess to have the 'truth' all arrive here spouting islamist propaganda?

Note to 'willtotruth': you won't get much traction here citing antiwar.com.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-31 16:39|| 2005-10-31 16:39|| Front Page Top

#15 Three and a half years ago, this character who calls himself "willtotruth", reads a bit of agitprop in an online rag and figures he's got insight. Okay, so "willtotruth" apparently doesnt have a "willtoreadawholelot", but at least he's not using CAPITAL letters to express the deep profundity of his outrage. He can't stop himself from a sly ad hominem dig at "you clever folk", but that's relatively mild given that personal attacks constitute over half of your average anti-war argument in my experience.

Lest anyone else waste a few minutes of their lives going over to the link, let's review. The opening should tip off the reader that this is not precisely an objective analysis:

Analysing the Israeli oppression is a like playing chess with the devil: the evil minds behind the occupation are always two steps ahead of you.

The crux of the matter:

"Terrorism" has always served as a good excuse for this premeditated policy(and was served by it in turn).

So "terrorism" is pretext, not an atrocity, not a threat to life, not a deliberate policy of an Authority bent on destroying a Zionist entity with which it pretended a temporary peace even while promising a million martyrs on the road to Jerusalem.

If you believe this, of course anything "evil" Israelis do, anything at all, to protect themselves is illegitimate.

What "willtotruth" (what a sanctimonious nickname) and his(?) ilk miss is any sense of historical context. The Oslo accords changed the dynamic of the region; Palestinians were granted the right to govern themselves and create armed forces allegedly in exchange for ending incitement and agreeing to live peaceably. They failed to live up to the responsibility of self-government. There should be no surprise that in the absence of Israeli military occupation and with the presence of a well armed adversary, Israeli security measures would intrude more into Palestinian life. If Arafat had lived up to what he agreed his people could have gotten most of what they claimed to want. Your argument is with him. The first concern of the Israelis, understandably, was the mass deaths on their buses and in their cafes because of a little dust-up called the intifada.

Now maybe "willtotruth" can find some more recent article to read. Or maybe a book or something. He is, after all, much cleverer than the rest of us.

Posted by Baba Tutu 2005-10-31 18:32|| 2005-10-31 18:32|| Front Page Top

#16 Palestinian Foreign Minister Nasser al-Kidwa said on Monday that the Gaza Strip could turn into a prison camp if there was no solution to the problems of the area.

The Jews are gone, aren't they? So what exactly is this "problem"?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-31 19:02|| 2005-10-31 19:02|| Front Page Top

#17 Sharon and Bush are both playing chess. The Palestinians, Iranians and Syrians are playing Russian roulette.

Posted by Darrell 2005-10-31 19:08|| 2005-10-31 19:08|| Front Page Top

#18 wot doesn't realize that it's the Palis suffocating their own people.

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-10-31 19:34|| 2005-10-31 19:34|| Front Page Top

#19 And after I found out about the tax that muslims put on non-muslims living in muslim areas, I have no problem w/Israel controlling the water.

Now why don't the Palis want to be on the receiving end?

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-10-31 19:35|| 2005-10-31 19:35|| Front Page Top

#20 Let's see ...
Routine threats and vengeance. Check!
Frequent mayhem and fatalities. Check!
Plenty of criminals and felons. Check!
Continuous crime and corruption. Check!
Lots of guns and improvised arms. Check!
Scads of violence and sexual abuse. Check!
Complete hopelessness and futility. Check!

If this wasn't the Palestinians, I'd swear it was a high security prison.

Instead, it is the Palestinians and merely the usual hellhole of their own making.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Posted by Zenster 2005-10-31 23:33|| 2005-10-31 23:33|| Front Page Top

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