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2005-11-28 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran Training Chechen Rebels — Paper
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Posted by Steve 2005-11-28 09:57|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Perfect example of the evolution of an "unsourced" news report. The original story cites an anonymous "senior intelligence official". (Whatever the fuck that is) Their allegations are based on unverified "Western intelligence reports" (Whatever the fuck they are) And less then 24 hours later it is picked up and reported with the convenient qualifier "-Paper". Look for a teaser headline on television, with the ole question mark at the end, "Iran Training Chechen Rebels ?". Typically it will be right before they break to commercial for a medication that will cure your penile dysfunction problems or the like.
Posted by DepotGuy 2005-11-28 11:40||   2005-11-28 11:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh and BTW...next step on the evolutionary process of these stories ends up being stated as fact, simmilar to the addendum at the end of this report.
“Just as they have orchestrated attacks against British troops in Basra..."
IIRC that was graciously supplied to us by another unnamed diplomat citing another unsubstantiated report.
Posted by DepotGuy 2005-11-28 12:32||   2005-11-28 12:32|| Front Page Top

#3 Bad Move MM's

or good misinformation on behalf of our intel boys, whatever the case, good shit.

EP
Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-11-28 13:44||   2005-11-28 13:44|| Front Page Top

#4 Apologies for an extended rant but I'd be remiss if I didn't point out my favorite part. First insert a name to assign blame.
"...Iran’s hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, could have..."
Then combine two seemingly related, yet unverified reports and, eureeka, speculate on motivation.
"...so they are trying to put pressure on Moscow by backing Chechen fighters...”

Sweeet!
Posted by DepotGuy 2005-11-28 13:46||   2005-11-28 13:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Old Puty is scared sh*tless at the idea that in the next Russian election if he tries to go for Czar the orange revolution (supported by the evil capitalist) will be in Moscow not Unkraine. He has already taken measures to ban all foriegn NGO's and groups and the rest must be licensed, Stalin would be proud. My guess is that Puty will be working a backdoor agreement of selling out Iran (who even Puty must realize is a threat as much if not more to him than US) in return for sometype of agreement that we wont support or help bankroll a orange revolution Russia style. I hope we dont bite I think it would be a long term disaster to sell out the Russian democratic movement. In the long run the UN is not going to back any real teeth in Iran and if they did it would be a US show anyway so who cares if we get their support to do what we want anyway. Iraq is a perfect example of how our goals in Iraq were twisted by the usless process of the UN into WMD WMD WMD, something that was only part of the reason. Iran will be no different.

The UN should be considered nothing more than a mediator between nations and open dialog. For alliances and other matters the fact that everyone is in the UN makes it usless becuase what threat is Iran to say Zimbabway so why would they vote to attack Iran thier is no interest its like asking us to vote to attack Etheopia becuase they threaten Entria or vice versa we maynot want to see war but why should we choose sides niether threatens US. I think we should form a Democratic alliance were all members agreed to certian Human rights, Democracy, Capitalist standards, mutual protection, world stability, in return we would allow free trade for all members and other benifits like the huge amount of aid we give away for no return in the world. This alliance would be able to vote as a block in the UN to get its way also put huge pressure were it counts and if nessecary everyone would do thier part either military assistance or money towards such. They could peace keep organize relief and such all the time growing in size. To sweeeten the pot and force the fence sitters to join in and others to make the compliance to do so would be the economic with no US aid otherwise and tariffs and such on outside nations trade. Thier would be the core group that fully complys a second string of transition nations that are on plans to get to full compliance but want to be part then new entries. Just imagine the numbers of nations that would join for no other reason than to have their security garanteed by being part of the most powerfull alliance ever. Even if it was US and a handfull of other nations it would be unstopable and with the economic insecentives I think India, Australia, Japan, Britian, and alot more not to mention most of E. Europe, old Russian repulics, Turkey, why be part of the EU when you could join such a orginization.
Posted by C-Low 2005-11-28 15:10||   2005-11-28 15:10|| Front Page Top

#6 If borne out, one can only hope that RasPutin finally purchases a clue. Whether Iran had any direct hand in Beslan or not, they sure as he|| are helping to plan the next one. Russia's helpless addiction to hard currency will be its undoing.
Posted by Zenster 2005-11-28 15:21||   2005-11-28 15:21|| Front Page Top

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