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2006-03-09 Terror Networks
Osama Bin Laden will never surrender, says ex-jihadi
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Posted by Fred 2006-03-09 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [427 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 
yep, and Zark was taken into custody last year sometime? but the slimemold was released by a stroke of WTF. grrrr

Behold lions shitheads of Islam.
Posted by RD 2006-03-09 00:56||   2006-03-09 00:56|| Front Page Top

#2 Being wanted Dead Or Alive means that he doesn't have to worry about his final destiny, It's been decided for him. He may not even get the opportunity to say how he will die. It has to agitate Binny that "W" still has that photo of him near, with a red marker even closer!! Ohh, and the silver platter!
Posted by smn 2006-03-09 01:43||   2006-03-09 01:43|| Front Page Top

#3 For someone who seeks and yearns death he buggered off sharpish at Tora Bora.
Posted by Howard UK 2006-03-09 03:48||   2006-03-09 03:48|| Front Page Top

#4 This pin dick will surender unless someone is tasked to take him out in his personal bodyguards. Dying is for the peons.
Posted by SPoD 2006-03-09 03:56|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]  2006-03-09 03:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Rockefeller, Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, Leahy, Schumer, Clinton, Carter, Wesley Clark, Richard Clarke, Sandy Burger, Scheurer, Joe & Valerie, Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen...

All except the last two are still at large, not to mention substantially more dangerous.

Focus.
Posted by hunter 2006-03-09 05:14||   2006-03-09 05:14|| Front Page Top

#6 Howard UK, nah....he's off searching for the hidden imam or something like that. Yup. Or, wait...it's part of his secret plan to lead coalition forces all over the globe looking for him. He's not scared. Don't read anything like that into his ever more somber "messages to the faithful". Heavens, no.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-03-09 06:53|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]  2006-03-09 06:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Of what value is bin Laden alive to us? What are the liabilities of having him live another 40 years?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-09 07:22||   2006-03-09 07:22|| Front Page Top

#8 There's a considerable difference between running your mouth about fighting to the death and actually doing it.

In 1943 the USMC and USN took Tarawa at the cost of about 1100 Americans KIA. Of the roughly 5,000 Japanese defenders, 17 surrendered. (Not that the Marines were especially interested in taking prisoners at the end.)

Now imagine that Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (a/k/a "The Unshaven Lion of Islam in His Underwear") had been defending Tarawa. "Whoa, Marine dudes, we didn't think you were actually going to shoot at us! Hold up a minute, will ya, while I pack some things I'm gonna need at Gitmo."

This ties in to one of the left's favorite memes that I call the "Infinite Jihadis Theory." Under this theory, there's really no point in fighting the terrorists 'cause, you see, that will just make them mad and more terrorists will pop up and they're all willing to die for Islam so let's just make nice with them instead. But historically, very few units above platoon size have fought to the death if they had the alternative of surrendering or running away (which is why "Last Stands" like Thermopylae or the Alamo are so memorable.)

To put it differently, the WWII Japanese army was arguably the most fanatic army in history, and even they surrendered at the end. Compared to the WWII Japanese army, the jihadis look look a vicious but disorganized boy scout troop. There's just no reason to suppose that they won't crack if we just have the persistence to keep putting the screws to them.
Posted by Matt 2006-03-09 07:55||   2006-03-09 07:55|| Front Page Top

#9 And speaking of WWII, Osama himself reminds me of the kamikaze pilot who flew 37 missions: he was involved but not committed.
Posted by Matt 2006-03-09 08:21||   2006-03-09 08:21|| Front Page Top

#10 Good. I don't want him to surrender.
Posted by BH 2006-03-09 09:58||   2006-03-09 09:58|| Front Page Top

#11 At this point Bin Laden may be more of a liability for the Jihad than an asset.

To keep him alive and active, several dozen, maybe several hundred jihadis have to hunker down where ever they are, provide security, provide logistics, provide medicine, whatever.

With Bin Laden dead, these jihadis could actually do jihad.
Posted by mhw 2006-03-09 10:15||   2006-03-09 10:15|| Front Page Top

#12 the WWII Japanese army was arguably the most fanatic army in history, and even they surrendered at the end.

OK, so how many Americans surrendered to the Japanese? Does that make us bigger fanatics? And what is the ratio of American surrenders to Jihadi surrenders in the current conflict? That's a number the Jihadis might want to spend some time contemplating as they evaluate the effectiveness of publicly executing hostages. These nuts have not fully realized the implication of creating an implaccable, indefatigable enemy.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-09 10:29||   2006-03-09 10:29|| Front Page Top

#13 A large number of Americans surrendered to the Japanese on the Batan Peninsula and Corregidor. Large numbers of Brits and Aussies at Singapore.
Posted by Throlulet Graviling7296 2006-03-09 13:30||   2006-03-09 13:30|| Front Page Top

#14 Mr. Hunter:

In post#5 You state your list of people are more dangerous than Osama bin Laden.

Would you care to explain how so?
Posted by Just Curious 2006-03-09 16:30||   2006-03-09 16:30|| Front Page Top

#15 “He will never surrender because he seeks death and yearns for it . . .”

Well, we wouldn't want to disappoint him, would we? Send him on down into our neighborhood. We got something for him that he's gonna just love.

(And afterwards we're gonna have a porkrib barbeque to celebrate. Everyone invited)
Posted by ex-lib 2006-03-09 16:43||   2006-03-09 16:43|| Front Page Top

#16 Got to agree w. #14 - we can't heap scorn on the left for saying Bush is worse than Osama or Hitler, and then turn around and say the same thing 'bout the left.

How 'bout Lefty X is worse than Ted Kennedy.
Posted by DMFD 2006-03-09 21:53||   2006-03-09 21:53|| Front Page Top

#17 they're not worse than Bin Laden - they're just anti-american in a lesser sense. No wonder JC/LA/Cassini didn't gt it....they're part and parcel of the same worthless group. No f*&kin patience tonight for sh&theads
/rant
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-03-09 23:04||   2006-03-09 23:04|| Front Page Top

#18 Lol, Simply Disingenuous can't get anyone to play with him. :-)

The truth is that the greatest danger does, indeed, come from within. Our external foes are a weak, sappy, mix of dismal failures in an alliance of convenience.

I think Hunter got it right. Against the wall right.
Posted by .com 2006-03-09 23:17||   2006-03-09 23:17|| Front Page Top

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