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2006-04-10 Caribbean-Latin America

"I'm not a Mexican-American. I'm an American."

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-04-10 18:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This story jives with the turnout a few years back in California. There was a ballot imitative to restrict public services of illegal aliens, the "conventional wisdom" claimed that there would be a Latino uprising at the polls, but the measure passed by 75%. Hard to deport 11 million but if you get started I bet half of them will leave before you have to send them back forcibly.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-04-10 18:24|| 2006-04-10 18:24|| Front Page Top

#2 A lot of the illegals will self-deport if you DON'T let them get legal status while here and DO expedite granting legal status to applicants at ports of entry. Quit rewarding those who cut ahead of the line and start rewarding those who do things right. Make it worth their while to go back to Mexico and get in line where they belong.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-04-10 18:39|| 2006-04-10 18:39|| Front Page Top

#3 My bad: Prop 187 passed by 59% but was overturned in court. Same M.O. as always with the LLL: They win in court what they can't at the polls.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-04-10 18:52|| 2006-04-10 18:52|| Front Page Top

#4 I await the counter-demonstrations by those who are of Mexican birth but are now genuine Americans who believe in the rule of law. Should they materialize, it will gut this Tranzi wet dream in a heartbeat and leave the Democraps flopping about on the beach.

If they do not, then they have learned nothing being here and do not deserve to enjoy the wondrous freedom of America. One might even say they differ little from the phantom moderate Muslims, in fact -- playing both sides of the issue until the outcome becomes clear.

Posted by Ulinter Angeagum6865 2006-04-10 19:38|| 2006-04-10 19:38|| Front Page Top

#5 Ulinter Angeagum6865: Successful, prosperous people don't agitate against those who are not successful or prosperous. Mostly, they work for a living. They're too busy.

The people out on the streets are out solely because they are scared that they're about to be declared "felons". Yes, that should scare them. It would scare me.

The bottom line to ALL of this crapola is that there is ONE thing, and ONE thing only that will solve MOST of the problem. And that is to build a wall.

Any other proposals, that is, ANY AND ALL other proposals, are efforts to NOT build the wall.

Nobody is serious about declaring illegals felons. The argument is hogwash, as is deporting them *or* giving them amnesty. ALL bogus, to avoid the one big thing that will matter.

So look to Washington, D.C. If you understand that EVERY effort on the subject except to build the wall is a deception, suddenly it becomes very clear.

There are a handful of Congressmen who understand what is going on, and want to build a wall. But there are a LOT of Congressmen who DON'T want that wall built, and will throw up vast amounts of bulldada, trying to sound "helpful".

But the latter are like people standing in a bucket brigade, but instead of passing buckets of water, they are passing buckets of gasoline, while pretending to be "helpful".

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-04-10 20:18|| 2006-04-10 20:18|| Front Page Top

#6 I'd like to weigh in... Regards real people having jobs and little time for demonstrating, good point, Moose. At the end of the day, what energy is left (most of us would agree) should be invested in being a good spouse and parent. Citizenship is a distant second for most of us, I think. Only the kiddies (which seem to be a very large percentage of those agitating) and the professional Tranzis seem to have the time for marching around.

If the citizens who emigrated legally from Mexico vote for rule of law, then they have done the least they can do. If they were to do more, however, it would deflate the demagoguery very quickly. The greatest positive impact potential comes from them acting. Others will be branded bigots and racists - as we see happening now.

Indeed, the fence works well enough to help stem the tide. I support building it where it would have the greatest impact - and a little more on both ends, lol.

The US Senate is our real problem and I don't see how we will make sufficient effective changes in its composition in a timely manner. It would take a huge mobilization of those real Americans who recognize the rule of law is the very foundation of our system, the very reason for our success. And they are probably not motivated to do more unless there's a personal impact... a very American trait. The Minutemen are the exception to the standard selfishness which rules supreme in most issues.

We owe them a huge debt of gratitude for getting this issue front and center and putting their asses on the line to back up the rhetoric. BUT they are largely white and many retired, so their impact is less than it should be. I think that what impact they have had is due to their restraint and careful observance of the law. The ACLU thought they would be able to destroy them and the movement to control our borders, but have failed miserably, lol. God bless the Minutemen leadership - they got it right on the first pass.

In the short-term, I believe we're screwed. We have to find a legislative formula which can swing over the support of the cowards to something that, at least, begins to slow the flow. Once that is accomplished, then we push for more, I guess. We have to proceed in stages, and each must give the cowards political cover to move forward to the next.

That's how it seems to me, at least.

Posted by Threart Spoling4885 2006-04-10 21:06|| 2006-04-10 21:06|| Front Page Top

#7 The reason you make it a felony is because

1) They're undocumented or carrying false documents. That allows law enforcement to hold them with a charge beyond the 72 hour limit to clear their background. 72 hours is not enough to have all jurisdictions to report in on outstand felony warrants for robbery, rape, murder, etc.

2) It allows multiple counts against coyotes for each act of abetting and aiding in the commission of the federal felony.

3) It allows the prosecution of local and state officials as conspirators in the commission of a federal felony by providing 'safe haven' to those committing a felony.

I could care less about individually prosecuting each and every illegal. Points 2 and 3 will do a lot to cut the support system.

Posted by Slinetle Flains8557 2006-04-10 21:08|| 2006-04-10 21:08|| Front Page Top

#8 SF8557 has it

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-04-10 21:20|| 2006-04-10 21:20|| Front Page Top

#9 All we have to do is raise the price of beans to to $5.00 a can and they will leave by the droves....

Posted by crazyhorse 2006-04-10 22:20|| 2006-04-10 22:20|| Front Page Top

#10 LOL. Oh yeah, sure thing. Without the legislative will you've got nothing. No law changes. No felony offense. Nothing. SOS. Just holding your pud and spouting off won't change a thing folks, you've got to do it at the polls every November. Cull the DC herd of the weaklings - or pound sand.

Posted by Snolugum Glese3729 2006-04-10 23:30|| 2006-04-10 23:30|| Front Page Top

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