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2006-05-14 Home Front: Culture Wars
Roe attorney to Clinton: Use abortion to 'eliminate poor'
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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Margaret Sanger, the godmother of modern contraception and legal abortion, was a bigtime eugenicist...
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-05-14 00:20||   2006-05-14 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 I have heard liberals talking "eugenics" recently. Eugenics and the beleif in them was The National Socialist Party's forte.
Posted by SPoD 2006-05-14 00:25|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-14 00:25|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't understand why the dems would want to eliminate the barely educated, unhealthy and poor segment of our country. After all, they are a core Democrat constituency.

Can we say "Roe effect" children? Good. Can we say "politicaly irrelevant"? even better.
Posted by N guard 2006-05-14 00:30||   2006-05-14 00:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Someone needs to tell Weddington that he won. He won't need to suck up to the Clintons this campaign cycle. He can retire and write his memoirs now. Total Fertility Rate (TFR) is below replacement level in the entire industrial world and is heading that way in all but the poorest countries. The "religious orgy" of the Reagan-Bush years apparently wasn't very fertile.

Circa 1996, the LA Times did an in-depth, two page spread of abortion statistics. The number that sticks in my head was that 68% of abortions were being performed on middle class or wealthier white women in their 20's. In other words, most abortions were being elected by women who could have afforded the kids.

IIRC, the TFR for that demographic is something like 1.6 or 1.7 in the United States.

It's kind of a Gramscian eugenics, isn't it?
Posted by 11A5S 2006-05-14 02:20||   2006-05-14 02:20|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't know. I'm conflicted on this. Could there be anything sadder than an unwanted child discarded to a life of poverty and ignorance? It's easy to think of all children as well fed and happy - but the reality is that life can be torment if a child isn't given a proper chance.
Posted by 2b 2006-05-14 06:51||   2006-05-14 06:51|| Front Page Top

#6 In his postscript, Weddington said: "I was co-counsel in Roe v. Wade, [and] have sired zero children and one fetus, the abortion of which was recently recounted by my ex-wife in her book, "A Question of Choice" (Grosset/Putnam, 1992) I had a vasectomy in 1969 and have never had one moment of regret."

Kinda summits it all, doesn't it? Merrily breeding themselves out of existence.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-05-14 07:15||   2006-05-14 07:15|| Front Page Top

#7 "In his postscript, Weddington said: "I was co-counsel in Roe v. Wade, [and] have sired zero children and one fetus, the abortion of which was recently recounted by my ex-wife in her book, "A Question of Choice" (Grosset/Putnam, 1992) I had a vasectomy in 1969 and have never had one moment of regret."

THEN

"The Weddingtons divorced in 1974."

'Nuff said? Loser.
Posted by no mo uro 2006-05-14 08:59||   2006-05-14 08:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Sadly, there is a ring of truth to it all, even from a conservative Christian viewpoint. Sex is going to happen, prevention is better than correction, and society could not sustain 30 million unwanted children born often to drug addicted poor young women who cannot make it a single parents. Even young suburban high school and college girls interrupt their education and diminish any opportunities they may have bu an unwanted pregnancey. I think offering free birth control and vasectomies to those who do not want to be parents and cannot accept full responsibility for their choices the truly compassionate thing to do, and eliminating abortion is to eliminate any hope for a segment of society. Weddington isn't advocating genocide, but as someone pointed out on another RB post, we do have a lot of high-functioning idiots running around. The Bible actually advocates responsibility for the care and education of your children as well as discipline, and never ever advocates parenting outside of wedlock.
Posted by Danielle 2006-05-14 10:15||   2006-05-14 10:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Puts me in mind of the punk rock classic by the Dead Kennedys.

Kill the Poor

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home…

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor…Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they…
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor…Tonight
Posted by JDB 2006-05-14 10:35||   2006-05-14 10:35|| Front Page Top

#10 nothing wrong with abortion in the first trimester. It's a foetus, not a human. Do YOU remember when you were an egg and sperm? Didn't think so. You might remember being a 1-year-old child at the earliest.

Problem is the catholic thinking 'every sperm is sacred every sperm is good, and if a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate'

same with stem cell research: nothing wrong with it! could help a lot of people. Seems completely illogical for people to be worried about it.

I'd be far more worried about the global trade in human organs ripped out of unwilling human beings: like prisoners in China.

Remember that hilarious South Park episode when Eric Cartman's mum wanted an abortion in the 38th trimester?

But that means your child is 8 years old!
Posted by anon1 2006-05-14 13:10||   2006-05-14 13:10|| Front Page Top

#11 With all due respect, Anon1, the problem is that big evils tend to start out as little evils.

The Holocaust was the direct intellectual and political descendent of the eugenic movement. All communist butchery can be traced back to the simple proposition that property rights are invalid.

One can view a fetus as a clump of insensate cells or a growing potential. That potential is miraculous as it grows to love, grow, create, and share.

The journey between denying the beauty and sacredness of such a potential and the gas chamber or killing fields in not a long one. I believe that once that potential has started its growth, it must be protected with all means that do not prevent it from exercising its free will.

Protection and free will sometimes clash. That's what God made wisdom for.
Posted by 11A5S 2006-05-14 14:41||   2006-05-14 14:41|| Front Page Top

#12 The (insert disfavored or disadvantaged group here) shouldn't be allowed to breed. That is the intellectual brother of unlimited and unrestrained access to abortion. A goal of the Eugenics movement by a differnet name.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-14 14:47|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-14 14:47|| Front Page Top

#13  68% of abortions were being performed on middle class or wealthier white women in their 20's.
If that's true, it means that a lot of people who are too dumb or lazy to use proper contraception are using abortion as birth control. As for "eliminat(ing) the barely educated, unhealthy and poor segment of our country", who gets to choose? I grew up VERY poor. Today, I'm considered middle-class. My brother and his wife are pulling in $50,000 or more in a home business. The guy who shined my boots and shoes for $2/week in Panama sent eight kids through college, including three that became doctors, two lawyers, one civil engineer, a teacher and a biologist.

No human being should ever consider playing God - they're not smart enough, they have no clue what they're doing, and the unexpected consequences of their actions may be horrendous (Hitler and his ambitions come to mind, along with Mao's "great leap forward, Pol Pot's killing fields, and thousands of examples going back through history).

Mr. Weddington should be exiled to an island somewhere in the South Pacific where there's only a handful of trees and no natives. He can't do much harm from there. Bill and Hill should have the adjacent island, with hungry sharks swimming between them.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-05-14 15:40|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-14 15:40|| Front Page Top

#14 The guy who shined my boots and shoes for $2/week in Panama sent eight kids through college, including three that became doctors, two lawyers, one civil engineer, a teacher and a biologist.

That wouldn't happen to be Carlos at Ft. Kobbe, would it OP?
Posted by 11A5S 2006-05-14 16:42||   2006-05-14 16:42|| Front Page Top

#15 "68%" - that number is higher is other medias or studies, even amongst minority or mixed-race adult women. The evidencias ultimately demonstrate that there is no need for any form of abortion to be subsidized by Government-Public Sector. LEFY UNIVERSAL EQUALISM > ANTI-ITOPIA UTOPIAN GENDER-BASED SOCIALISM - "Abortion Rights" is just a feel-good, PC/PDeniable label for promoting and miantaining pervasive pregancies amongt knowingly teenage, tweeny, or pre-teen minor females in order to earn Govt-subsidized public assistance, i.e. AGE-BASED GENDER SOCIALISM. Its called the Left B******* about a problem(s) but wilfully never solving it -iff anything, the masses are being MISLED, just like Lefties working to ensure that Russia-China rule the world but NOT their own country is NOT TREASON - ITs NOT SOCIALISM, MARXISM or COMMUNISM but "ANTI-FASCISM" [ anti-Rightism SOCIALISM], ITs NOT RUSSIA-CHINA or COMMUNIST ASIA but "EURASIANISM" or "MACKINDER'S WORLD ISLAND" etc!?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-05-14 22:51||   2006-05-14 22:51|| Front Page Top

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