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2006-06-02 Down Under

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Posted by Seafarious 2006-06-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I'd be dead if I lived there.

I was diagnosed with a medulloblastoma last Thursday, met the surgeon this Wednesday, and have the surgery on Tuesday.

They'll impose HillaryCare over My dead body. Or maybe, imposing it would make My dead body.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2006-06-02 00:37|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2006-06-02 00:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Someone needs to knock this turd off his high horse. This asstard is prescribiing death while you wait. Typical Socialist/Communist twaddle.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-06-02 00:44|| 2006-06-02 00:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Actually, what Abbot says is correct. Too many people talk as if the supply of money to fund healthcare is unlimited. It aint. We live in a world of finite resources. The way to optimize a scarce and expensive resource that is delivered in time slots is to ensure there is a queue waiting to use it.

And BTW, what he is saying is that demand for healthcare is just like any other goods or services. Demand increases or decreases with price and availability. Again, something that most people conveniently ignore.

And also BTW, you can get as much healthcare whenever you like in Australia as long as you or your insurance company is willing to pay for it. Unlike Canada which essentially bans private healthcare.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-06-02 01:15|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-06-02 01:15|| Front Page Top

#4 Jackal,
good luck to you, very scary.

Posted by Jan 2006-06-02 04:49|| 2006-06-02 04:49|| Front Page Top

#5 Get well soon, Jackal! Wishing you a full and complete recovery, fellow Zonie!

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-06-02 05:19|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-06-02 05:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Well my insurance is good and I get good care. But this sounds like rationing. Rationing is a putting people in a death que. Cannda and the UK suck for this. No part of that do I want in my country. Go ahead and wait in line phil-b see how that work out for you personally. I have good insurance. I had Cancer. I had an operation 3 weeks later after it was confirmed I did indeed need one. No waiting about, no "rationing". If I was in a line is was the line that said my Dr had a specific operating room on friday and it's next friday.

Long queues are a death sentence. The TRANZIs and commies love them to death in a literal sense.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-06-02 06:03|| 2006-06-02 06:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Best of luck to you, Jackal, and here's wishing you a speedy and complete recovery.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-06-02 06:28|| 2006-06-02 06:28|| Front Page Top

#8 I have top of the line private healthcare through my wife's job. The point here is that healthcare is expensive and somewhere, somehow, someone has to pay. The Australian system tries to encourage people to pay for their healthcare, but at the same time provide a safety net for those who can't pay. The reality is that if you didn't get more sooner by paying then no one would pay. Ergo queues are an incentive to pay, although Abbot can't come straight out and say that.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-06-02 06:28|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-06-02 06:28|| Front Page Top

#9 It's good to see that so many people here understand that State treatment rationing, like all socialism, kills.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-06-02 07:28|| 2006-06-02 07:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Yes, Jackal, hope you'll recover soon and well!

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-06-02 07:43|| 2006-06-02 07:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Best wishes for a swift recovery.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-06-02 07:46|| 2006-06-02 07:46|| Front Page Top

#12 Heal up fast Jackal. BTW, we don't even need an Aussie illustration to prove the folly of hillary-care. Just look a little north. The Canucks flood across the border for American health care rather than wait for months, sometimes up to a year for their 'turn' in the vaunted Canadian health care system. FU Hillary, socialized medicinites, and the horses you rode in on.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-06-02 08:53|| 2006-06-02 08:53|| Front Page Top

#13 Good luck with the surgery and a quick recovery, Jackal.

Posted by lotp 2006-06-02 09:08|| 2006-06-02 09:08|| Front Page Top

#14 Hope everything goes well, Jackal.

Come back as soon as you're able and let us know how you're doing. (But DON'T rush it.)

Posted by Glaish Elmuque5557 2006-06-02 09:20|| 2006-06-02 09:20|| Front Page Top

#15 What the h*ll?

#14 was me.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-06-02 09:21|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-06-02 09:21|| Front Page Top

#16 Best wishes from DC, Jackal.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-06-02 09:39|| 2006-06-02 09:39|| Front Page Top

#17 Good health to 'ye Jackal, they'll be a short Hudna on feral cannine jokes.

Posted by 6 2006-06-02 10:16|| 2006-06-02 10:16|| Front Page Top

#18 Best of luck, Jackal. I will put you in a prayer.

Posted by Fordesque 2006-06-02 11:32|| 2006-06-02 11:32|| Front Page Top

#19 prayers and good luck, Jackal!
Frank

Posted by Frank G 2006-06-02 11:52|| 2006-06-02 11:52|| Front Page Top

#20 #3 Actually, what Abbot says is correct. Too many people talk as if the supply of money to fund healthcare is unlimited. It aint. We live in a world of finite resources. The way to optimize a scarce and expensive resource that is delivered in time slots is to ensure there is a queue waiting to use it.

Price increases expand supply. Price controls decrease supply. Most socialist systems start out as a way of promising cheap healthcare to everyone. However, by controlling prices they reduce supply, quality and/or innovation. The rationing is the result of reduced supply.

Nationalized healthcare systems take up less resources than the U.S. system. But they either provide inferior care, ration services and/or bar new drugs and technology. Note also that vitually all new advances in medical technology come out of the U.S.

The Canucks flood across the border for American health care rather than wait for months,

True, which implies that the Canadian system is not large enough to handle it's population even with rationing. One reason Canada spends less on healthcare per person is because it doesn't provide all of the healthcare for its population.

Posted by DoDo 2006-06-02 12:32|| 2006-06-02 12:32|| Front Page Top

#21 Best of luck, Jackal, and e-mail me if I can help.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-06-02 17:00|| 2006-06-02 17:00|| Front Page Top

#22 Tough break, Jackal. Hang in there. I'll be thinking about you.

Posted by tu3031 2006-06-02 19:37|| 2006-06-02 19:37|| Front Page Top

#23 Jackal, hang in guy we need you! Hey us canines are tough!

I'll be praying too!

Posted by Red Dog 2006-06-02 23:52|| 2006-06-02 23:52|| Front Page Top

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