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2006-07-29 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Arab support for Hezbollah grows as fighting continues

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Posted by Fred 2006-07-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Oh yes, we must not incite the Arab street. Israelis jus grab your ankles and take it like a joo.

Posted by Captain America 2006-07-29 00:46|| 2006-07-29 00:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak warned after the Hezbollah raid that the guerrilla fighters "will drag the whole region to adventures that won't serve either the interests or the issues of Arabs."

You've got that right, Husni.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-07-29 00:50|| 2006-07-29 00:50|| Front Page Top

#3 These kind of stores are starting to saturate the MSM. Same old "why do they hate us" handwringing, and it's all bullshit. The myth that terrorism is caused by 'injustice' or wrongs, rather than the truth that there are some people who are just evil murdering bastards. Muzzie terrorists don't need a REASON to hate, and even if they did, who cares why? Do you ask the cockroach why it's crawling across your floor, or do you kill it?

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-07-29 03:34|| 2006-07-29 03:34|| Front Page Top

#4 The Times is reporting over 80% Druze and lebanese Christian support for the Hizbis. But how can they believe the IDF is losing, when Israeli defense forces have lost only a couple of dozen troops? Because Islam fosters a party-line culture.

The IDF is advancing slowly because they know that the nukes will fly when missiles strike Tel Aviv.

What is the source of resistance to the belief that Israel will use nukes to pre-empt a status quo "peace" that would allow genocidal missile placements? Appeasement?

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-07-29 07:38|| 2006-07-29 07:38|| Front Page Top

#5 But how can they believe the IDF is losing

Because the Israeli government is acting like it is losing. War is not merely a physical exercise, but a moral one. The greater the physical challenges, the more moral resources are required to overcome them. But Olmert and Peretz (and Bush and Blair) are providing no moral support to the IDF,or they are conducting the greatest disinformation campaign in history. I'm not positive which, but it still looks like the IDF will be hung out to dry.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-29 07:44|| 2006-07-29 07:44|| Front Page Top

#6 But Olmert and Peretz (and Bush and Blair) are providing no moral support to the IDF

I think I know what you mean, NS, but the logistical support Bush is providing (jet juel etc.) appears to be quite real and substantial.

Posted by lotp 2006-07-29 09:07|| 2006-07-29 09:07|| Front Page Top

#7 It is, but it will not be sufficient to assure victory if the moral support is absent. That is why this problem has been festering for 60 years. The Cold War was a sufficient reason to leave it an open wound. What reason is there now?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-29 09:11|| 2006-07-29 09:11|| Front Page Top

#8 "if the option of peace fails as a result of Israeli arrogance, then the only option remaining will be war, and God alone knows what the region would witness in a conflict that would spare no one."

Right - Arabs losing yet another war. Keep trying, guys, and maybe you'll be as successful as Kos picking political winners!

Posted by Raj 2006-07-29 09:15|| 2006-07-29 09:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Actually, it has been festering for 60 years because no one has ever done what Bush is doing right now. Give it time - Bush is. If the IDF seems to be having a rough go of it, perhaps they are. Perhaps Hezb's front line is playing tough and they're not the usual muzzy pushovers. Perhaps the IDF is not exactly the Super Force that everyone has given it credit for. Many of those on the line right now are merely kids. Big hearts and decent doctrine, but green kids.

Wait and see. LOL, as if we have any alternative.

Posted by cruiser 2006-07-29 09:16|| 2006-07-29 09:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Fuck em.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-07-29 09:38|| 2006-07-29 09:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Wise comments. Dealing with the growing and entrenched Iranian and Arab strength will not be a pushover -- not for Israel and not for us.

The problem is that everyone THINKS we could just push a button, have a little military operation and wipe out this threat. And so long as people think that they will be reluctant to do what is necessary to ensure that western civilization survives this threat.

Posted by lotp 2006-07-29 09:39|| 2006-07-29 09:39|| Front Page Top

#12 Strong Horse - Weak Horse

Posted by mrp 2006-07-29 10:05|| 2006-07-29 10:05|| Front Page Top

#13 I think Israel needs to rid Peretz from the position of Defense Minister if they want any chance of making this work out right. Look at the bio on him in wikipedia BIO AT THIS LINK

Finishing up with these fine MOONBAT TRANZI beliefs so important for a defense minister to have:

Views and beliefs:

Peretz is strongly committed to social issues and to the strengthening of the welfare state. He has declared that "within two years of taking office I will have eradicated child poverty in Israel". Notwithstanding, he has also reiterated his commitment to a market economy. For his movement in latter years towards "third way" positions, as well as for his earthy and warm personality, Peretz has been compared to Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.

In matters concerning relations with the Palestinians and the Arab world, Peretz holds dovish positions. He was an early member of the Peace Now movement. He was also, in the 1980s, a member of a group of eight Labour party Knesset members, dubbed "the Eight" and led by Yossi Beilin, who tried to set a liberal agenda for the party in matters concerning the peace process with the Palestinians. Peretz connects between the peace process and internal Israeli social issues. He believes that the unresolved conflict with the Palestinians has also been a hindrance to the solution of some of Israel's most pressing social ills, such as rising inequality. He sees the resources allotted to the settlements in the West Bank as having diverted funds that could have helped to solve these problems. He has described the conflict as having mutated Israeli politics, so that the traditional left-right distinctions do not hold: Instead of supporting a social-democratic left which would advance their cause, the lower classes, mostly of Middle Eastern Jewish origins, were diverted to the right by the fanning of nationalist tendencies. Concurrently the left in Israel was usurped by the well-to-do, so that the Labour party had ironically become elitist. That is why Peretz sees an intrinsic connection between a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the resolving of Israel's internal social tensions

Posted by 3dc 2006-07-29 12:47|| 2006-07-29 12:47|| Front Page Top

#14 lotp, if you'd read the drubbing I got from Oldspook earlier this week, you'd know I don't expect a walkover. But something here is fishy and it's got nothing to do with military capability. And the fishy smell is the real threat to Western Civ.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-29 13:22|| 2006-07-29 13:22|| Front Page Top

#15 #13 3dc. There's nobody meaner than a mugged liberal.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-07-29 20:45|| 2006-07-29 20:45|| Front Page Top

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