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2006-08-19 Fifth Column

WaPo find Marine who sez Hadithia was 'Routine'

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Posted by Bobby 2006-08-19 09:40|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I served with Chessani. He is a fine officer and I think the Marines involved did their job in accordance with the ROE. Until the Marines are convicted by a jury of their PEERS, I won't believe otherwise.

Posted by Bama Marine 2006-08-19 12:04|| 2006-08-19 12:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Their best defense is "fog of battle", that demands strong forensic evidence of wrongdoing for a conviction. In this case, evidence presented after the fact with clear intention to incriminate makes it inadmissable--it is tainted.

This means that NCIS forensic materials are the only substantative evidence. Given the haste of the engagement, as one of a series of engagements, along with no on scene military condemnation, there is nothing to justify any further investigation.

The only other factor would be the death, immediately beforehand of a member of their unit. But while this may go to motive, by itself it means little without objective corroboration.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-08-19 12:43|| 2006-08-19 12:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Yeah, but all the WaPo readers understand that, right Moose? And the Lawyer who asked, "Did it occur to you that you needed to do an investigation simply so you could go to the locals and say, 'This was righteous'? . . . And be confident that you were speaking with certainty?" -- Obviously he knows that, but it doesn't sound good to the WaPo guy. I suppose he has three tours of combat duty - like Tom Cruise in "A Few Good Men".

Posted by Bobby 2006-08-19 14:23|| 2006-08-19 14:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Evidence presented after the fact with intent to incriminate doesn't make that evidence "tainted" or "inadmissable." Anyone who has ever tried a case knows that all the prosecution's evidence is presented after the fact. It is all presented with the intent to incriminate. That is what the prosecution does. The term "tainted" deals with the "fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine" on Fourth Amendment issues.

Posted by Sgt. D.T. 2006-08-19 14:28|| 2006-08-19 14:28|| Front Page Top

#5 WaPO repeats Murtha's lie: It became more controversial in May when Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.), who had been briefed by top Marine officers, said at a news conference that what happened in Haditha was "much worse than reported in Time magazine" and that Marines had "killed innocent civilians in cold blood."
Murtha HAD NOT been briefed when he made those accusations.

HREF='http://patterico.com/2006/08/17/5015/hagees-office-responds/'>Patterico investigated and found: ...Hagee first briefed Murtha on Haditha on May 24 a solid week after May 17, when Murtha first accused Marines of killing civilians in cold blood.

No mention by WAPO that Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich is suing Jack Murtha for defamation.

Posted by GK 2006-08-19 17:48|| 2006-08-19 17:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Agree, Bama Marine, agreed. The MSM is trying to fit the real story to its presupposed narrative again. So much for the presumption of innocence, justice, and an actual verdict.

This may be the most sleazy aspect of the MSM, condemning those who protect them and their freedom to print rights.

Posted by Captain America 2006-08-19 18:48|| 2006-08-19 18:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Here's the link to Patterico's Pontifacations that I screwed up in post #5

Posted by GK 2006-08-19 21:39|| 2006-08-19 21:39|| Front Page Top

/Unavailable for comment.

//You can't handle the truth.

Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2006-08-19 23:10|| 2006-08-19 23:10|| Front Page Top

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