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2006-09-16 Europe
Pope 'sorry' for offence to Islam
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Posted by john 2006-09-16 07:52|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 He's not really sorry, just doesn't want this to cause backlash in those countries against Christians and Jews. Well, more than usual anyway.
Posted by Charles 2006-09-16 08:22||   2006-09-16 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 He is sorry that muslims mininterpreted his words, not for the words themselves..
Posted by john 2006-09-16 08:24||   2006-09-16 08:24|| Front Page Top

#3 "I'm sorry you pack of barbarians were offended by the statements of a man whose nation was exterminated by your ancestors 500 years ago."
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-16 08:37|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-16 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 "I'm sorry you couldn't wait 24 hrs before confirming what I said"
Posted by Frank G 2006-09-16 08:39||   2006-09-16 08:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, that's the end of the Catholic Church's pretensions towards universality. If the leader of the Church can't stand by his words, thoughtfully and forcefully delivered, then it isn't a Church at all, but just another sect. Just another denomination in a beleaguered faith, and a fading denomination at that.

How demoralizing. And I'm not even a believing Christian.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2006-09-16 08:43|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2006-09-16 08:43|| Front Page Top

#6 And the apology for "Zawahiri threatens France".
Come on people. This is stupid. Is thier great religion so fragile that this turns thier world upside down? And this religion is going to take over Europe in 10 or so years.
Posted by plainslow 2006-09-16 08:55||   2006-09-16 08:55|| Front Page Top

#7 It's actually a non-apology. Similiar to "I'm sorry if what I said bothers you" - not a retraction. Besides of all the people in the world you would expect the pope to stand by the truth, and in this case he has.
It hardly needs pointing out here at Rantburg that evil & inhuman do things go hand & hand with Islam.
Islam IS the enemy of the civilized world.
Posted by JerseyMike 2006-09-16 09:00||   2006-09-16 09:00|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes, I'm sorry all you sandy pricks are fucking retards.
Posted by Pope Benedict XVI 2006-09-16 09:16||   2006-09-16 09:16|| Front Page Top

#9 I'm sorry, too, for the offence that is Islam.
Posted by eLarson 2006-09-16 09:19|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2006-09-16 09:19|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm sorry that we are going to have to fight a war of extermination with Muslims. I do not say war of civilizations because they are a pack of ignorant barbarians.

The only question in my mind is how many Westerners will be killed before the extermination begins.
Posted by SR-71 2006-09-16 09:37||   2006-09-16 09:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Brother, when the NYT or the BBC 'interprets' a statement from someone it despises, they sure put their own spin on things.

Best to read the original.

Statement By the Vatican's Secretary Of State

h/t Amy Welborn "Open Book"
Posted by mrp 2006-09-16 09:39||   2006-09-16 09:39|| Front Page Top

#12 I stand by his previous statement and I do not apologize. Truth hurts. It is time to grow up Muslim.
Posted by newc">newc  2006-09-16 09:45||   2006-09-16 09:45|| Front Page Top

#13 We must seek paths of reconciliation and learn to live with respect for each other's identity
Posted by bk 2006-09-16 10:31||   2006-09-16 10:31|| Front Page Top

#14 No we don't if muzzies want respect then quit acting like f*cking ignorant barbarians.
Posted by djohn66 2006-09-16 10:40||   2006-09-16 10:40|| Front Page Top

#15 I think Benedict is trying to wake up Europe. So he points out the obvious, then issues a non-apology of the sort the Euros demand and expect, all the while allowing them to think about the original point and watch the actual Muslim violent reaction.
Posted by lotp 2006-09-16 10:47||   2006-09-16 10:47|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm not Catholic, but prayed last night that He gives Ratzinger a lot of time to do what needs to be done.
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-09-16 11:11||   2006-09-16 11:11|| Front Page Top

#17 Look, folks, it cannot be that bad. Nobody has been killed in riots, yet. However, the clerics and so-called holy men will take every opportunity to get the muzzies all riled up. It IS all part of the war that Islam has declared on western civilization.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-09-16 11:13||   2006-09-16 11:13|| Front Page Top

#18 Don't kid yourselves. He's going to Turkey in the next month or so. Something will happen.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-16 11:23||   2006-09-16 11:23|| Front Page Top

#19  We must seek paths of reconciliation and learn to live with respect for each other's identity

Certainly. And what happens to those who refuse to do so?
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-16 11:41|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-16 11:41|| Front Page Top

#20 Nobody has been killed in riots, yet.

Nope. Just bombings, shootings, and torchings of Christian churches in the PA. Empty buildings, so far.

Don't expect that to last.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-16 11:42|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-16 11:42|| Front Page Top

#21 I know that here on Rantburg the Pres has been waiting for a sufficient provocation.

Would the assasination, or attempted assassination of the Pope by Muslims be enough?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-09-16 12:23||   2006-09-16 12:23|| Front Page Top

#22 The Pope's comments really have the muslims between a Kabaa and a hard place. If major violent riots break out, it simply proves his point. Yet, to not violently protest is terribly unislamic and against all teachings.

That more violent "protests" haven't occurred yet seems to indicate they do understand their regular seething and ranting and killing plays into the Pope's comment as proof.

Giggity-giggety
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-09-16 12:44||   2006-09-16 12:44|| Front Page Top

#23 I wish he had let his comments stand, as is. Every time these scumbags firebomb a churh, we should respond by flaming 10 of their mosks.
Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-09-16 13:32||   2006-09-16 13:32|| Front Page Top

#24 I wish he had let his comments stand, as is. Every time these scumbags firebomb a church, we should respond by flaming 10 of their mosks.

Preach it, SOP. If we had gone Roman on these guys earlier, the 'moderate muslims" might have stopped the jihadis. The longer we wait, the higher the butcher's bill will be. Their barbarism wil continue until they learn that the cost is too high.
Posted by SR-71 2006-09-16 13:51||   2006-09-16 13:51|| Front Page Top

#25 
That more violent "protests" haven't occurred yet seems to indicate they do understand their regular seething and ranting and killing plays into the Pope's comment as proof.


No, it means they haven't really had time to organize yet. It took months for the Motoon riots to get under way.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-16 14:04|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-16 14:04|| Front Page Top

#26 Some of you don't seem to get it. This is not an apology for what was said. It's not much of an apology at all, more like tossing sand into the wound and punching it. The statement is very clear he is sorry they are offended. No place does is say he is sorry for or takes back the quote he used. It is like saying "I am sorry you are stupid and ugly."
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-09-16 14:46|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]  2006-09-16 14:46|| Front Page Top

#27 Hey, muzzies!!! What's the problem? Mo-ham-head was a murderous, lying, pedophile.

The crusades were a direct result of the sort of islamic militancy we are seeing with the islamo-cockroaches of today.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2006-09-16 14:53||   2006-09-16 14:53|| Front Page Top

#28 The Pope has no apology for what he has said. he is simply "sorry" that muslims are offended and reacting with the very violence and hatred of which they have been accused.

The Pope has called a spade a spade. And, in illustration, the mulims are reacting in spades. And that is what makes him sorrowful. And hopefully the apologists, hand-wringers, fifth columnists, MSM, LLL and other ostriches - wiser.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-09-16 16:29||   2006-09-16 16:29|| Front Page Top

#29 Running errands today, I had the radio on a little. Gawd, the press is staffed and run by idiots. They got this story almost exactly wrong.

Fer crissake, would we be better served without international press?
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-16 17:09|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-16 17:09|| Front Page Top

#30 "... a clear and radical rejection of the religious motivation for violence, from whatever side it may come."

Any of you Muslims paying attention to this?

Here's the only part where anything remotely like an apology is given:

"The Holy Father thus sincerely regrets that certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful, and should have been interpreted in a manner that in no way corresponds to his intentions."

His remarks weren't supposed to be offensive, they were merely a bitchslap wakeup call that a magnifying glass is being held up to the Islamic anthill religion.

He deftly refuses to fault his own choice of words and instead mentions how "certain passages of his address could have sounded offensive", which is another way of telling Islam just how wrong they are to take exception.

I also like his reference to "the sensitivities of the Muslim faithful", although I strongly doubt that Islam will catch this sidelong reference to how skinless thin-skinned it is.
Posted by Zenster 2006-09-16 17:15||   2006-09-16 17:15|| Front Page Top

#31 The liberals have already demanded that the Pope be impeached since he offended their contributers. It's only a matter of time before the Democraps try to link him to the Enron scandle and argue that he allowed Haliburton to provide food service to the Jews. In other news, Bagdad has some how elected Blanche Lincoln as Mayor after useing voting machines donated by the state of Arkansas. I guess they forgot to unfix them.
Posted by Rick 2006-09-16 17:22||   2006-09-16 17:22|| Front Page Top

#32 Good one, Rick. :)
Posted by SR-71 2006-09-16 17:50||   2006-09-16 17:50|| Front Page Top

#33 Drudge has a great photo up top of seething muzzies. Animals. Nothing but animals following a satanic "religion".
Posted by Remoteman 2006-09-16 18:35||   2006-09-16 18:35|| Front Page Top

#34 Pope 'sorry' for offence to Islam

Pope: Islam offense is 'sorry'

There! It's fixed now!
Posted by gorb 2006-09-16 20:05||   2006-09-16 20:05|| Front Page Top

#35 Don't think for one minute that the Pope doesn't know exactly what he is doing. It is well known that John Paul conspired with Reagan to bring down the Soviet Union. The only way for the West to win this war without a lot of western damage is to goad the Muzzies into action before they have the Nukes.
Posted by YaRight 2006-09-16 20:06||   2006-09-16 20:06|| Front Page Top

#36 What action has he in mind? Greater love hath no man?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-16 20:14||   2006-09-16 20:14|| Front Page Top

#37 "And hopefully the apologists, hand-wringers, fifth columnists, MSM, LLL and other ostriches - wiser."
Yes, and mo-ham-heads will fly.
Posted by Leonidas 2006-09-16 22:36|| http://fightingintheshade.blogspot.com/]">[http://fightingintheshade.blogspot.com/]  2006-09-16 22:36|| Front Page Top

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