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2006-12-19 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-12-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 However, our approach is that when one suffers, the one who perpetrates the suffering is obviously guilty but he will never succeed if the victim did not deserve it in one way or another.

Common idea. Used to try to convice religious people to be even more religious. Because if they are religious enough, their suffering will go away because God doesn't need to punish them any more. [Note: "Enough" == bends sufficiently easily to the will of the religious authority that they can count on him/her to gladly do stupid stuff in the name of "God".]

Posted by gorb 2006-12-19 01:12|| 2006-12-19 01:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Cohen said on his return: President Ahmadinejad is not a man of war. He is a man of peace.

Just for spewing this bullshit alone, the man should be jailed or confined. Evil.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-19 01:42|| 2006-12-19 01:42|| Front Page Top

#3 may I offer for consideration that Ahron Cohen be nailed to a cross?

Posted by RD 2006-12-19 02:33|| 2006-12-19 02:33|| Front Page Top

#4 Or they could tear all his hair out and stone him to death.

He'd deserve it, of course. :-)

Posted by gorb 2006-12-19 03:35|| 2006-12-19 03:35|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, Gorb, God wouldn't allow it if he didn't deserve it.

Unfortunately, no immam will issue a fatwah against this fool.

Posted by Bobby 2006-12-19 06:30|| 2006-12-19 06:30|| Front Page Top

#6 I've heard of trial by combat and trial by fire. But this is the first I've heard of trial by Holocaust.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-12-19 07:26|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2006-12-19 07:26|| Front Page Top

#7 I love the logic of this conference. "It didn't happen, and the millions that died deserved it."

Posted by PlanetDan 2006-12-19 07:27|| 2006-12-19 07:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Yup, PlanetDan -- don't forget the part about how they're gonna finish the thing that didn't happen.

Posted by exJAG 2006-12-19 07:40|| 2006-12-19 07:40|| Front Page Top

#9 Next thing you know he'll be demanding Christmas trees be removed from Washington airports.

Sometimes when I wonder why these Michael Moore types think the way they do I have to pinch myself. There is no logic for pure evil.

Posted by Icerigger 2006-12-19 07:54|| 2006-12-19 07:54|| Front Page Top

#10 Ahron Cohen, an Orthodox Jew from Greater Manchester and a leading member of the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta movement

Those would be the idiots who believe that Israel is an abomination and must be destroyed, which they're doing their best to help along by attending conferences like this. The head of their group was appointed the PLO's Minister of Jewish Affairs by Yasir Arafat. These are the people who in their spare time are fond of stoning women wearing shorts and cars driving past their neighborhood on the Sabbath. About as representative of Judaism as the Reverend James Jones was of Christianity when he passed out the poisoned Koolaid to his congregation in Guyana... and as they believe the Jews should be remain in the Diaspora until called back by God through His Messiah, they'd want to see more public displays of Christianity, so that all Jews should feel their abject misery as a subject people more deeply.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-12-19 08:29|| 2006-12-19 08:29|| Front Page Top

#11 I'll bet he's Jimmy Carter's favorite rabbi...

Posted by tu3031 2006-12-19 09:19|| 2006-12-19 09:19|| Front Page Top

#12 I have to wonder why he doesn't just say, "Inshallah".

Posted by Hupesh Elmonter5585 2006-12-19 09:49|| 2006-12-19 09:49|| Front Page Top

#13 That skirt was so short she deserved it.

Posted by pihkalbadger 2006-12-19 10:06|| 2006-12-19 10:06|| Front Page Top

#14 They finally found a usefull jew.
I wondered when the ultra-orthodox fruitcakes would get in on the action.

Posted by bigim-ky 2006-12-19 10:42|| 2006-12-19 10:42|| Front Page Top

#15 Let me remind once again, Neturei Karta is a minority within a minority within a minority.

Most Orthodox Jews, like most Non-O jews are Zionist - in fact some could be called "ultra-Zionist" Chassidic Jews, with some exceptions (like the Lubavitch) are cool to Zionism, since they believe that only G-d can found a Jewish state. Most accept Israel as a fait accompli to be dealt with though. A few chassidic groups, of which the most prominent is Szatmar, consider Israel an abomination, and refuse to have anything to do with the Israeli govt. The Neturei Karta is a minority within Szatmar, and most Szatmar hassidim find Net Kartas antics embarrassing.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-12-19 14:48|| 2006-12-19 14:48|| Front Page Top

#16 and yes, Id agree with TW, most guys like this dont really care about public displays of christianity. Such displays only matter to Jews who consider themselves citizens, and for whom such displays represent exclusion from citizenship. For guys like these, wrapped up in mystical fatalism, citizenship in ANY country is basically an irrelevance.

One group, the Lubavitch chassidim, actually LIKE Christmas displays. Thats cause they have (for reasons too complex to go into) an obsession with spreading public Hanukkah displays, and court cases allowing religious displays of course allow that as well.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-12-19 14:52|| 2006-12-19 14:52|| Front Page Top

#17 - Leaders of New York's ultra-Orthodox Satmar community vehemently denied any connection with the Hasidim who participated in the Holocaust denial conference held in Tehran last week and met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

New York Satmar leaders, who usually avoid all contact with members of the media, on Friday took the unusual step of issuing a press release slamming the "reckless outcasts" who took part in the Tehran gathering. The statement said that through their participation these individuals turned themselves into Holocaust deniers and joined those who dismiss the extent of the murder and cruelty and diminish the number of the victims who were murdered because they were Jewish.

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A separate press release issued by the Satmar Congregation Yetev Lev in Brooklyn took pains to establish that those who participated in the Iran conference do not belong to their community.

It is a big mistake, the statement continued, to call them rabbis or Hasidim just because of the way they dress.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-12-19 16:40|| 2006-12-19 16:40|| Front Page Top

#18 One group, the Lubavitch chassidim, actually LIKE Christmas displays. Thats cause they have (for reasons too complex to go into) an obsession with spreading public Hanukkah displays,

LH we got some of those in TLH, right down the street as a matter of fact and you're right, it's all about Hanukkah displays. Works well here. Do you have a link for information about the too complex to go into here?

Posted by Shipman 2006-12-19 17:58|| 2006-12-19 17:58|| Front Page Top

#19 Iff we can have RINO CINO Dems, aka FASCISTS-FOR-COMMUNISM, ANARCHISTS-FOR-GOVERNMENTISM/
TOTALITARIANISM, etc, why not as per Rabbis/Jews for ...... Besides, many of these are just using their religion as cover = diversion for something else.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-12-19 23:17|| 2006-12-19 23:17|| Front Page Top

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