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2007-01-30 Great White North

You can't kill women, town tells immigrants

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Posted by tipper 2007-01-30 20:22|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 We wish to inform these new arrivals that the way of life which they abandoned when they left their countries of origin cannot be recreated here

Good for them.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-01-30 20:43|| 2007-01-30 20:43|| Front Page Top

#2 The following:

"We wish to inform these new arrivals that the way of life which they abandoned when they left their countries of origin cannot be recreated here," said the declaration, which makes clear women are allowed to drive, vote, dance, write cheques, dress how they want, work and own property.

"Therefore we consider it completely outside these norms to ... kill women by stoning them in public, burning them alive, burning them with acid, circumcising them etc."

elicited this reaction:

Salam Elmenyawi, president of the Muslim Council of Montreal, said the declaration had "set the clock back for decades" as far as race relations were concerned.

The proper reaction would be to say "OK, we're the newcomers here; we'll try to fit in". The improper reaction is to declare that asking you to treat women as human beings is "racist".

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2007-01-30 20:52|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-01-30 20:52|| Front Page Top

#3 The declaration is part of a wider debate over "reasonable accommodation", or how far Quebecers should be prepared to change their customs so as not to offend immigrants.

I wonder if they'd be willing to make reasonable accommodations to not offend Americans, or even other Canadians.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-01-30 20:53|| 2007-01-30 20:53|| Front Page Top

#4 So if you outlaw killing women by stoning them in public, burning them alive, burning them with acid, circumcising them, etc. you're considered racist? Oh.
So what are you considered if you allow it?

Posted by tu3031 2007-01-30 20:53|| 2007-01-30 20:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Salam Elmenyawi, president of the Muslim Council of Montreal, said the declaration had "set the clock back for decades"
So you prefer setting the calendar back 13 centuries instead?

Posted by GK 2007-01-30 21:16|| 2007-01-30 21:16|| Front Page Top

#6 So if you outlaw killing women by stoning them in public, burning them alive, burning them with acid, circumcising them, etc. you're considered racist?

A new definition of 'racist'. The old definition was 'someone who's winning an argument with a liberal'.

Posted by DMFD 2007-01-30 21:23|| 2007-01-30 21:23|| Front Page Top

#7 By laying down the rules, they also eliminate the defense of ignorance. If some family circumcises their daughter, and it is found out, they it is only right that everyone in complicity know beyond any doubt that what they have done is a crime *before* the fact.

It *stops* being cultural accommodation and becomes a crime, when they are informed about it.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-01-30 22:05|| 2007-01-30 22:05|| Front Page Top

#8 must not stone women to death in public

But its ok to do it in the privacy of your own yard right? How about if a mosque wanted to rent a quarry for a little private stoning? Is that ok?

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-01-30 22:33|| 2007-01-30 22:33|| Front Page Top

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