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2007-04-24 Home Front: Culture Wars
(Another) Border Agent Charged With Murder
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Posted by DepotGuy 2007-04-24 09:13|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 There should be a wall of machine guns and motion detectors at the border. Yet another f*cking outrage against an officer of the law in pursuit of his duty and in defense of his country. We have turned reason upside down.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-04-24 12:02||   2007-04-24 12:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Thank God I won't live to see it, but Arizona, New Mexico, and California are lost. It's only a matter of time until they succeed from the Union, and unlike South Carolina's attempt in in the early 1860's, they will be permitted to do so by Washington.
Posted by Besoeker 2007-04-24 12:44||   2007-04-24 12:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Oh come on, Besoeker. I was out there recently and people seem to be doing fine. Anglos, Hispanics, Asians, all seem to be working to get ahead and get along.

Let's keep in mind one important fact that gets lost in the immigration debate: a very large proportion of Mexicans come here because they don't want to be Mexicans any more. They were Americans born in the wrong country. Sure they'll be misty eyed on Cinco de Mayo day, and they'll cheer for Mexican soccer, but as to going back and living there? Forget it.

And their kids become fully Americanized. It's the typical immigrant success story times 10 million: mom and pops work all day and all night and speak the old language, and the kids become teachers, accountants, doctors and cops.

We aren't going to lose the Southwest. Mexico is going to lose because they're losing their best, most ambitious people.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-04-24 14:43||   2007-04-24 14:43|| Front Page Top

#4 There's a bunch of Mexico's best, most ambitious criminals in US prisons. That's our loss, not Mexico's. Perhaps the Army of Steves has new ROE's?
Posted by Vinegar Shavins3192 2007-04-24 16:48||   2007-04-24 16:48|| Front Page Top

#5 I agree with Steve White. We had a huge influx of immigrants from 1900-1930's. Some were gangsters (the Sicilian Mafia) most were not. We got some very bad criminals and some very excellant physicists, mathemeticians, musicians, artists, you name it.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2007-04-24 18:43||   2007-04-24 18:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Deacon, you're right but we need a halt to it now and probably for another two decades at least. The immigrants we have here now need to assimilate and we need to stop having to deal with what appears to be an ever-increasing influx. Closing the doors now, and keeping them closed for 20 years, may very well be the key to allowing immigration to ever happen again. Right now both parties are ignoring the voters who, if they had their way, would probably end all immigration permanently. The polls invariably show that Americans are sick of it and most want it to stop immediately.
Posted by Mac 2007-04-24 19:01||   2007-04-24 19:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Mac, I do agree that immigrants need to assimilate. The unlawful ones won't and shoud be sent back to wherever thay came from. If one is an unlawful alien and you commit a crime you should never be granted citizenship. The unique thing about our country is anyone can come here and become an American. I could go to any other country in the world and obtain citizenship but never be, say, German, French, Danis, Japanese, Chinese, et. al. THAT is the strength of America.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2007-04-24 19:19||   2007-04-24 19:19|| Front Page Top

#8 The difference is that Mexico is right next door. If you live in southern California through Texas you can still be a Mexican and live here. You can get your home country's radio and newspapers, and go back and forth any time you want.

The people who settled in Poletown or Little Italy did indeed form little islands of their culture, but they were cut off from the motherland and surrounded by American, which crept in (and some good things crept out, too).
Posted by Jackal">Jackal  2007-04-24 22:36|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2007-04-24 22:36|| Front Page Top

#9 Walls make good neighbors. Shut this SHIT DOWN NOW and there won't be any border intrusions and crimes committed
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-04-24 22:43||   2007-04-24 22:43|| Front Page Top

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