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2007-06-23 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 Arabs with guns don't have a very good track record. Don't give them any explosives.

Posted by Super Hose 2007-06-23 00:21|| 2007-06-23 00:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Also give them vehicles with Lojack installed.

Posted by Super Hose 2007-06-23 00:23|| 2007-06-23 00:23|| Front Page Top

#3 the anger expressed across the Muslim Arab world reflects deep embarrassment at the discredit Hamas has brought, in the name of Islam, through its savagery against Fatah.

"The Joos, you eediots! You are supposed to be killing the Joos!"

Posted by Pappy 2007-06-23 01:00|| 2007-06-23 01:00|| Front Page Top

#4 There has been many a contemptuous and disdainful remark made about Paleos on Rantburg since its inception. The Paleos have worked really hard to prove to the world that all of those pejorative comments were actually relative understatements of their complete degeneracy and worthlessness. Let it be duly noted, then, that in this matter, THEY'VE ACHIEVED A COMPLETE AND UNPARALLELED SUCCESS!!!!

Posted by Mac 2007-06-23 01:44|| 2007-06-23 01:44|| Front Page Top

#5 They have some success. Somehow they still manage to migrate to the hated and near-sighted West, while our aid keeps burning the pockets of corrupt Arab leaders. Actually, our failures are their successes.
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/v/j/kennedy_absolut.jpg

Posted by McZoid 2007-06-23 04:06|| 2007-06-23 04:06|| Front Page Top

#6 The Arab world built this monstrosity. They discouraged a compromise of coexistence with Israel because they wanted to maintain a hostile Arab population which could be utilized to undermine and ultimately destroy Israel. A miniscule fraction of the Saudi oil wealth could have been used to create a more constructive reality, but that would not have served "the cause".

Now I suspect what the major Arab regimes really fear is that the Frankenstein monster can no longer be controlled and could turn against them. With Sunnis and Shiites slaying each other in Iraq and now Hamas and Fatah in open warfare, they are concerned for their own safety.

They sow the wind, and they reap the whirlwind.

Posted by Harcourt Thoger1590 2007-06-23 04:21|| 2007-06-23 04:21|| Front Page Top

#7 Wow. I never thought I'd read this. I thought the Palestenians were infallible superhumans. It's odd that these condemnations only occur when they do exactly what they've been doing for a long, long time.

Posted by gromky 2007-06-23 05:55|| 2007-06-23 05:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Easier, and more lucrative, to conquer EUrope?

Posted by gromgoru 2007-06-23 07:28|| 2007-06-23 07:28|| Front Page Top

#9 For instance, throughout the Arab Gulf region, starting with Al-Jazeera of Qatar and Al-Arabiya of Saudi Arabia, the press has long been controlled by Palestinian Arabs practiced in spewing anti-Western and anti-American propaganda. But the Gaza conundrum has left them stymied, opening space for "local sentiments," which differ markedly.

Eenteeresting. Veddy eenteeresting!

Posted by Bobby 2007-06-23 07:51|| 2007-06-23 07:51|| Front Page Top

#10 I think that if the oil wealth left the ME and the governments lost their ability to buy off enemies or buy protection, you would see the entire region ending up like this.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-06-23 08:11|| 2007-06-23 08:11|| Front Page Top

#11 A few regimes are trying to invest in industry and education beyond the oil. They may make it when the oil runs out or the alternatives gain ground.

But the others have a pretty steep uphill climb and it's hard to see any evidence they have the discipline, drive and dedication to make it out of the deep ditch they keep digging for themselves.

Posted by lotp 2007-06-23 08:47|| 2007-06-23 08:47|| Front Page Top

#12 a widely read opinion commentator for the Saudi daily Asharq Al Awsat, Mamoun Fandy, thundered on Monday. "We need to tell them the only thing they have proven over 50 years is that they are adolescents who cannot and should not be trusted to run institutions of state or any other important matters."

Gee, that sounds like what you'd expect the hear of a Donk, EUnich or UN bureaucrat say about anyone else. Da'Man is working for a job as the next UN Secretary General, I tell you.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-06-23 10:40|| 2007-06-23 10:40|| Front Page Top

#13 The reason we are funding Fatah is that they are so corrupt and imcompetent that they will lose or sell half of what they get, and they will piss the rest of it away killing Hamas in Gaza, thereby discrediting and destroying BOTH groups.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-06-23 11:32|| 2007-06-23 11:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Fire ants, it's like feeding fire ants.
I would lose faith to, sending money to waring insects who offer no clear sign of progress, but regress into total wars of survival. And all this because Islam instructs them to reject the higher western culture and comforts in favor of bitter vengence against a perceived enemy from 13 centuries ago. Phalking brilliant.

Posted by wxjames 2007-06-23 12:01|| 2007-06-23 12:01|| Front Page Top

#15 Hey -- it only took them fifty-nine years to figure it out. They deserve credit for that much.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-06-23 12:10|| 2007-06-23 12:10|| Front Page Top

#16 It's nice to see their tradition of "the enemy of my enemy" style temporary alliances finally come back to bite their collective ass. About the only joy in all of this is that Islam is, and always has been, its own worst enemy. I have every confidence that Islam will bring this to a penultimate conclusion by forcing Western nations to annihilate the entire MME.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-23 12:34|| 2007-06-23 12:34|| Front Page Top

#17 A side from Iran and the paleos, I think the other ME states need/want Israel to stick around. If Israel is ever destroyed the other ME regimes lose their most viable scape goat to blame for their own corruption and ineptitude. Those regimes need their boogey man to keep the illiterate masses focused outward.

Posted by Broadhead6 2007-06-23 13:58|| 2007-06-23 13:58|| Front Page Top

#18 The very good news about this is less about the purported impact on the arab world, since the arab street has had progressive alzheimer's about reality for decades, and since they have no real basis for understanding world systems de-linked from their expansionist, evangelical moon-cult. The good news is the way this helps strip the blinders away from our loonie leftist fellow citizens, forcing those with some cognitive ability left after all those years of multi-cultural kool-aid to see that not all cultures, religions and governmental structures are equal. In fact, ours are the most enlightened, noble and precious in the history of mankind. If they spent less time peeing on our collective American leg and realized how hard it is going to be to keep what we have got, then we might see a brighter future. To do that we must relize that the West is facing a monsterous struggle for it's very life, and the foe has infiltrated among the immigrants Europe and the US/Canada has allowed in. The good news is that even my nutty in-laws are beginning to sense their "progressive" political point of view might be enabling something dangerous to their birkenstock lifestyle. Now if we can just get them to stop listening to NPR, NYT, Time and the other remaining organs of propaganda from the left, we might let them see what the Gaza debacle has exposed, the ugly heart of arab/middle eastern political realities.

Posted by JustAboutEnough 2007-06-23 16:04|| 2007-06-23 16:04|| Front Page Top

#19 wxjames,
Your comment on feeding fire ants reminds me of an old technique used to reduce the fire ant population. Take a good shovelfull of one fire ant mound and dump it onto another one a little distance away. Repeat for each mound. Make sure you don't have any that climbed up the shovel handle, then sit back and watch. With popcorn.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-06-23 17:08|| 2007-06-23 17:08|| Front Page Top

#20 Obviously you guys are not in sync with former President Jimmy Carter on this subject.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-06-23 17:47|| 2007-06-23 17:47|| Front Page Top

#21 Why is America trying to pour new money and more weapons into Palestinian Arab hands barely days after the Gaza debacle? ... The only sure result will be that warring gangs in the West Bank will use every new weapon to continue the mayhem ....

If you can't make it out, click here. :-)

Posted by gorb 2007-06-23 18:20|| 2007-06-23 18:20|| Front Page Top

#22 Why is America trying to pour new money and more weapons into Palestinian Arab hands barely days after the Gaza debacle? ... The only sure result will be that warring gangs in the West Bank will use every new weapon to continue the mayhem ....

Corresponding graphic here.

Posted by gorb 2007-06-23 18:23|| 2007-06-23 18:23|| Front Page Top

#23 Dang Gorb, you tried twice but I couldn't see either graphic. :-(

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2007-06-23 18:34|| 2007-06-23 18:34|| Front Page Top

#24 Try clicking the link, Scooter!

Posted by gorb 2007-06-23 18:56|| 2007-06-23 18:56|| Front Page Top

#25 Gorb:

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Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-23 19:23|| 2007-06-23 19:23|| Front Page Top

#26 pappy: "The Joos, you eediots! You are supposed to be killing the Joos!"

Precisely. Muslims around the world have seen Palestinians as the Muslim vehicle for killing Jews and ultimately expelling them from what is now Israel. Now that the Palestinian factions actually control some land they can call their own, their primary pre-occupation is to maintain or take power, rather than fight the Jews. I don't understand why Muslims around the world are perplexed. Palestinians are not their personal Janissaries or Mamluks (i.e. military slaves). Rhetoric aside, all they want is a patch of land to call their own. Dying en masse in battle against Israel isn't their goal in life, however important it might be to fellow Muslims who are willing to fight Israel to the last dead Palestinian.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-06-23 22:19|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-06-23 22:19|| Front Page Top

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