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2007-10-24 Afghanistan
Afghan diplomat recalled for inviting Israeli to a party
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Posted by Steve White 2007-10-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top
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#1 Yo ... is this why we spent untold billions of dollars to "liberate" this Islamic shithole? Either they respect their own signature to the UDHR (Universal Declaration of Human Rights) or we should depose their current POS government in favor of one that will not impose shari'a law.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-10-24 01:50||   2007-10-24 01:50|| Front Page Top

#2 What Zenster said. Next time use nerve gas.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-10-24 08:46||   2007-10-24 08:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Some Afghans are really fond of Israel: in a brief excahnge of mails I had with one of them he made the most vibrant praise of Isreal I have ever read or heard.

Also some Pashouns tell that Pashtuns are descendants of one of the tribes of Israel who after being released of Babylon's captivity by the Persians marched eastwards instead of returning to Judea. I am not sure they really believe it but it sure pisses off both Arabs and Taliban and it is probably the intended effect...
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-10-24 09:48||   2007-10-24 09:48|| Front Page Top

#4 JFM, these Pashtuns may be right.

During the Babylonian and Persian empires, Jews went every which way in the Middle East, Mediterranean, and Africa, and along the Silk Road. In Acts 2, visitors to Jerusalem from all over, including "Parthians, Medes, and Elamites" heard Peter's sermon on the Day of Pentecost.

I don't know if Jews made it all the way to China, but Nestorian Christians worked their way down the Silk Road and into China by the 7th Century. This may explain why the Kwan Yin, the Goddess of Mercy, is sometimes pictured as a mother with a child; Kwan Yin was represented as male earlier on.
Posted by mom">mom  2007-10-24 10:35|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2007-10-24 10:35|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm beginning to think the best solution in Afghanistan is to get medieval on their asses. I have a lot more hope for Iraq. Saddam might have actually helped by secularizing Iraq to a certain extent and attempting to modernize. No such luck in Afghanistan. Those people really are stuck in the seventh century. It might be OK just to leave them to it except for Al Qaeda and the opium. I'm so sick of guys like Karzai who wring their hands and act like they can't do anything. If he's so helpless then just get rid of him, declare martial law and install a US general as the country's governor. Just tell them "Yes, idiots, we conquered you. We tried to be nice about it but you are idiots so this is how it's going to be."
Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2007-10-24 12:29||   2007-10-24 12:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Mom I don't doubt some Jewish mearchants could have reached Afghnistan but those Pashtuns aren't claming about some moleculae of Jewish blood in the veins of a few Pashtuns but for the Pashtun nation being in fact one of the tribes of Israel.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-10-24 14:22||   2007-10-24 14:22|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't know if Jews made it all the way to China

Yes they did, mom, at least twice. The last of the (an? earlier trek was photographed in the early part of the twentieth century -- both in clothes and appearance fully Han Chinese. There was another settlement -- mainly in shanghai -- during the 1930s and '40s, escaping the Nazis. The Sasson family of haircare fame is, I believe, part of that lot, along with one of my university roommates, whose father originally came from Austria, then emigrated to New York City after the war.

There was also the kingdom of the Khazars, I think, whose leader invited spokesmen from the Christians, Muslems and Jews, listened to them argue for their beliefs, then converted the entire kingdom to Judaism. They were eventually conquered and converted when the Muslims conquered the rest of Afghanistan.

The Jews have legends that the ten lost tribes of Israel are safely ensconced somewhere, and those more knowledgeable of geography than I claim the area described as vaguely somewhere in Afghanistan.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-24 14:31||   2007-10-24 14:31|| Front Page Top

#8 http://www.chinajewish.org/JewishHistory.htm
Posted by Besoeker 2007-10-24 14:47||   2007-10-24 14:47|| Front Page Top

#9 One of the rock edicts of the Indian emperor Asoka is located in what is now Kandahar, Afghanistan.

It is written in Aramaic.
Posted by john frum 2007-10-24 16:11||   2007-10-24 16:11|| Front Page Top

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Posted by john frum 2007-10-24 16:14||   2007-10-24 16:14|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm so sick of guys like Karzai who wring their hands and act like they can't do anything. If he's so helpless then just get rid of him, declare martial law and install a US general as the country's governor. Just tell them "Yes, idiots, we conquered you. We tried to be nice about it but you are idiots so this is how it's going to be."

Absolutely, Abu Uluque! If there is one legacy we must establish throughout the MME (Muslim Middle East), it is having expunged shari'a law in our wake wherever we go. Both Afghanistan and Iraq deserve the above treatment until they both get over any lingering infatuation with the barbaric pseudo-jurisprudence known as shari'a law.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-10-24 16:48||   2007-10-24 16:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Im a Jew and a Zionist, and have been both all my life, and Im not so upset at this. Id be willing to bet that Israel has quiet relations to the Afghan for ministry, and I think the State of Israel will survive even if its ambassador to Germany has to do without Afghan kabob for one night - heck, they probably werent even serving drinks at the party. Right now whats important is that the Afghan govt make progress on governance. And yeah, they havent been doing so well at that, and Karzai may well have outlasted his usefulness. In my opinion he was a great man, but even great men have their limits.

But US declared martial law would mean losing 30,000 afghan soldiers, not to mention the Brits, Canadians and Dutch. And creating an insurgency in the North and west.

I doubt very much that US commanders want to see that. Unless someone knows where they can get 50,000 or more additional US troops from.

I also doubt very much that US commanders care where the Israeli ambassador to Germany eats dinner.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2007-10-24 16:55||   2007-10-24 16:55|| Front Page Top

#13 I doubt very much that US commanders want to see that. Unless someone knows where they can get 50,000 or more additional US troops from.

Nice and gloomy realpolitik analysis there, liberalhawk. About half of that number is sitting unappreciated in South Korea even as we type. Moral relativism aside, let's try not to forget that all of the coalition countries—whether they admit it or not—should each of them be fighting tooth and nail to quash shari'a law forever. None of them should abandon the creation of a NATO suzerain in Afghanistan just because of squeamishness over finally driving a stake through shari'a law's heart in one of many Muslim majority countries.

Leaving shari'a law intact anywhere is a surefire guarantee of many more thousands dieing due to abject abuse of human rights, not to mention how anywhere that Islamic theocracy flourishes, terrorism does as well. There is not one single Islamic country that does not have a terrorism problem. ALL of it can be traced back to the Koran and shari'a law. The sooner this jurisprudent abomination is wiped from the face of this earth, the better.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-10-24 22:20||   2007-10-24 22:20|| Front Page Top

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