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2007-11-17 Home Front: Politix
Kerry Vows to Disprove Swift Boat Claims
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Posted by gorb 2007-11-17 04:42|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 My understanding is that there are a number of records that have not yet been released. Some form he must sign and hasn't that will allow release of those records.

The rumor is that the remainder of the records are politically damaging so much so his career in politics would be over, even in Massachusetts.

That's what I heard anyway.
Posted by badanov 2007-11-17 07:48|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2007-11-17 07:48|| Front Page Top

#2 Either Kerry is planning on running, or still thinks there is some relevance to this.

Kerry, you lost. You are a loser. Go retire or something. The US will not take you back.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-11-17 07:54||   2007-11-17 07:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I wonder if Kerry wakes up in cold sweats at night with the nightmare that some petty clerk somewhere will do a NYT routine on him the way some one else did with classified information and put his personnel file on line to be cached at thousand unreachable places on the net. Does the word 'leak' get his attention? Of course to actual have nightmares means you still have a soul to worry about. Never mind.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-17 08:09||   2007-11-17 08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Bad is correct. This tool still hasn't released all his records, just trickled out favorable or neutral ones. Release em all or remain defined as a arrogant traitorous self-promoting POS, Jon Carry
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-11-17 08:17||   2007-11-17 08:17|| Front Page Top

#5 It would seem that there is some risk here to JFnK. If an unresolved dispute arises between Kerry and Pickens regarding payment of the $1,000,000 and a lawsuit arises, it would seem that these deep-sixed military records could become a matter of public record.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-11-17 09:54||   2007-11-17 09:54|| Front Page Top

#6 ION - OJ still searching for real murderer.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-11-17 10:09||   2007-11-17 10:09|| Front Page Top

#7 If Kerry had any real evidence, he would lay it out and say, "Here is proof".

He did everything *but* that, offering endless "get togethers", "rap sessions", "personal meetings", and bullshit like that, he could later walk out of and *say* he had "proven that everything was all lies", even though Pickens would say he did no such thing.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-11-17 10:28||   2007-11-17 10:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Whatsamatta, Jawn? The old lady cut off your allowance?
Posted by tu3031 2007-11-17 10:30||   2007-11-17 10:30|| Front Page Top

#9 While fellow veterans and reporters disproved many of the group's claims at the time, Kerry refused to air ads responding to the criticism. His own response was muted for fear of legitimizing his critics' attacks. The senator conceded after losing to Bush that his lackluster response likely cost him the election.

Umm, I didn't follow this all that closely at the time, since his VN service was irrelevant to, and couldn't possibly affect, his clear unfitness to be CinC. But isn't the above passage - even by current, astonishing "standards" - a jaw-dropping bit of political propaganda inserted in a "news report"?

Posted by Verlaine 2007-11-17 11:18||   2007-11-17 11:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Pickens is no dummy, I expect the 'proof' meeting will have to be on video, and the 'single charge' to be refuted is stated in advance. If Jon Carry wants to prove the boat serial number is mis-stated, fine. If Jummy Carter says the pardon was for a general discharge vs the suspected dishonorable one, fine. If jane fonda is his material witness, fine.
Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-11-17 11:34||   2007-11-17 11:34|| Front Page Top

#11 It's truthy, Verlaine. He says it was disproved, therefore it was. And therefore, it isn't propaganda. Truthiness is such a useful concept!
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2007-11-17 11:40||   2007-11-17 11:40|| Front Page Top

#12 What he has done is walked into a trap. He is a gullible narcissistic buffoon who will be dropped into the s**t of his own making. There is more here than John O'Niell ever let be known and some of it very embarrassing and potentially criminal. I hope he goes through with this. Pickens didn't make his billions by being stupid unlike JFnK who married into his.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2007-11-17 12:09||   2007-11-17 12:09|| Front Page Top

#13 "I am prepared to prove the lie beyond any reasonable doubt"

Simply put, if you could-a you would-a.
Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-11-17 12:19||   2007-11-17 12:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Kerry Vows to Disprove Swift Boat Claims

For extra realism John F'N Kerry will release the entire Wad of records from a canal in Cambodia @ 0-darkthirty!
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-11-17 13:58||   2007-11-17 13:58|| Front Page Top

#15 Always fighting the last war....
Posted by Gomez Whineth7908 2007-11-17 21:05||   2007-11-17 21:05|| Front Page Top

#16 I believe the basis for his not releasing his military records, except partially to the Boston Globe: that he is sitting on an OTH discharge that was upgraded when Jummah left office. Otherwise, why is his discharge date two years after the end of his six-year obligation??
Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-11-17 21:41||   2007-11-17 21:41|| Front Page Top

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