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Michael Savage lawsuit links CAIR to 9/11 plot

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Posted by tipper 2007-12-31 06:27|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top
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#1 If you are gonna do it, go for the kill. Good luck Savage.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-12-31 07:52|| 2007-12-31 07:52|| Front Page Top

#2 No matter how much you despise CAIR at least some of this lawsuit seems to me like a steamy pile of horseshit.

Yes, he may have a point about unauthorized use of clips and a few other points and, perhaps, he hopes to get something on CAIR during discovery but a lot of this is 'over the top'.

Posted by mhw">mhw 2007-12-31 08:42|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-12-31 08:42|| Front Page Top

#3 No more a steamy pile of horseshit than most CAIR lawsuits. Goose, Gander.

Posted by jds 2007-12-31 10:17|| 2007-12-31 10:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Agreed jds. These Islamites have the money to file frivolas law suites just to scare anyone who dares exercise free speech against their "Allah".

Posted by www 2007-12-31 10:41|| 2007-12-31 10:41|| Front Page Top

#5 mhw: please cite what you think is over the top about Savage v. CAIR. I read the original complaint and the amended complaint alleging violations of RICO (available at the Savage website). It struck me as straight forward.

You say "perhaps" Savage "hopes" to get somethiong on CAIR during discovery. I say damn right he does. That's the beauty of his lawsuit.

CAIR has a track record of suing the little guy and then bailing out by dismissing the lawsuit if CAIR starts to get asked questions they don't want to answer under oath through the discovery process (deposition/interrogatories etc). See for example CAIR v. Anti-CAIR. CAIR had the power to dismiss or settle since they were the Plaintiff.

The beauty of Savage's lawsuit is that SAVAGE is Plaintiff and will decide when or if to dismiss (unless pitched out by the trial judge which decision would go up on appeal real quick). Do not bank on Savage dismissing the lawsuit short of trial unless he is satisfied he gets if not all of what he wants. He wants to burn CAIR - a front organization for islamic jihad.

What is especially interesting about the lawsuit is that it has been amended to include the allegations of CAIR violating RICO. RICO can be used in the civil realm. Do you hear the sound of a squealling pig in the background? That's CAIR reaction to the RICO amendments.

This is the first time I am aware of a civil lawsuit being lodged against CAIR. CAIR has to play defense instead of playing offense. This case will take years to play out but it will play out. Meanwhile it will be fascinating to watch.

Savage is performing a civic servise to the American people. He deserves your unqualified support.

Posted by Mark Z 2007-12-31 11:17|| 2007-12-31 11:17|| Front Page Top

#6 One of basis of the Savage RICO statement is that CAIR uses the funds raised in racketeering to support hidden activities. But what is the racketeering activity that raises funds? The funds CAIR gets from membership are close to zero. The funds they get from corporate sponsorship are close to zero. They get some funds from willing terrorist supporters (e.g., Saudi nationals living in the US) but these people knowingly are providing the funds - in fact these Saudi nationals are probably dictating to CAIR what stuff to fund.

If CAIR is guilty of racketeering on the basis that their funds are for an ideological purpose, then two thirds of the .org groups in this country are similarly guilty.

Posted by mhw">mhw 2007-12-31 12:55|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-12-31 12:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Gotta love Michael Savage. I hope he cleans them out. He's been saying for years that RICO should be used against the ACLU. Maybe in his next suit he'll go after them. Fun stuff.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-12-31 12:59|| 2007-12-31 12:59|| Front Page Top

#8 More on CAIR from Steve Emerson. Also, CAIR was the (anemic) Elephant in the Room of the Holyland Foundation Trial, readying for Part Deux in 2008. I'd say RICO would not be out of bounds here. Of course, just my opinion. I could be wrong.

Posted by doc 2007-12-31 13:48|| 2007-12-31 13:48|| Front Page Top

#9 mhw: You say that "2/3rds" of all .org groups in this country could be similarily situated as is CAIR. You say that as though it's a bad thiong. I for one think that those groups that advocate the violent or peaceful overthrow of the USA Constitution should be exposed. I don't give a damn if the group "advocates" the peaceful overthrown of the US Constitution. I want those groups exposed.

You don't? You think they should get a pass? Explain.

Posted by Mark Z 2007-12-31 13:59|| 2007-12-31 13:59|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm no Lawyer but i do remember CAIR bailing on cases when discovery was pressed against them before.. let's hope Michael has some good legal uderpinning and some extra support for his case.

CAIR too may have cleaned up their tracks enough by now that discovery may reveal little of use.

Posted by RD">RD 2007-12-31 21:58|| 2007-12-31 21:58|| Front Page Top

#11 CAIR and Savage deserve each other.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-31 22:31|| 2007-12-31 22:31|| Front Page Top

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