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2008-02-03 Home Front: Culture Wars
Why nobody trusts the media anymore (one of a series)
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Posted by Mike 2008-02-03 11:03|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 This is the work of the US Congress.
Posted by newc">newc  2008-02-03 11:29||   2008-02-03 11:29|| Front Page Top

#2 I personally was stunned and amazed to learn Tet was not an overwhelming military victory for the Commies, but rather a last dying gasp. Of course, back then we all got our news from the mainstream media and Walter Cronkite.
Posted by SteveS 2008-02-03 12:45||   2008-02-03 12:45|| Front Page Top

#3 If we had the same type of reporters in WWII we might have quit after the Battle of Bulge and certainly after Iwo Jima.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2008-02-03 13:00||   2008-02-03 13:00|| Front Page Top

#4 It is tragic that he didn't say who that "American TV cameraman" worked for. I would love to know which network. It had to be ABC, NBC, or CBS.
Posted by Anonymoose 2008-02-03 13:14||   2008-02-03 13:14|| Front Page Top

#5 mini rant, 2¢ worth:
Because we are at WAR with every Commie, Socialist, Leftest, every Islamist, every EU-bureaucrat, and almost every Media Clone new or old....

About year ago or maybe more I began to challenge every leftist or Paleo by first casting them as HATERS of America and depending on the topic HATERS of Israel. Right off the bat, as the first order of business in most cases.

I no longer begin by relating to these folks that I may have personal knowledge or attempt to lay out some historical facts to them unless some individual truly desires to exchange ideas [a rare situation indeedy].

Surprisingly this armchair battle-strategy works on a couple of levels.

1) It feels good to honestly nail the fuckers even if they are only brainwashed fools without malice.

2) It rightly re-orientates the conversation to the salient facts concerning the motives of the Haters.
Posted by RD">RD  2008-02-03 13:59||   2008-02-03 13:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Therre's a famous (or maybe not so famous) story of Robert Tregaskis, the author of Guadalcanal Diary commenting to David Halberstam about the mendacious conduct of the American press (ptui)in Viet Nam: "I don't know how you people sleep at night."
Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2008-02-03 15:05||   2008-02-03 15:05|| Front Page Top

#7 “As we stood at one such site, Washington Post correspondent Peter Braestrup asked an American TV cameraman, 'Why don't you film this?' He answered, 'I am not here to spread anti-communist propaganda'.” . . .

My, how the press has changed. Today, you can't find one who would ask the question in the first place.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2008-02-03 15:46||   2008-02-03 15:46|| Front Page Top

#8 If we had the same type of reporters in WWII

We did and they often were the same reporters. The difference was the Nazis attacked the Communists in June 1941.
Posted by ed 2008-02-03 16:08||   2008-02-03 16:08|| Front Page Top

#9 THe Communists tried a takeover of Hollywood after 1945 for its capacity in molding public opinion. Thay were clumsy, alienated the even lef wing people like Bogart and ended failiing.


Wouldn't have been logical to infiltrate something who is far more influent than Holywood ie the press.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2008-02-03 17:48||   2008-02-03 17:48|| Front Page Top

#10 I feel exactly the same way SteveS. I will *never* trust the media for anything ever again.

I was even more stunned when I found that soon after Tet the NVA were ready to talk peace but Hanoi Jane talked them out of it and Walter Cronkite's outright lies (that we, the USA, had suffered a 'stunning defeat') on the nightly news convinced them to continue.

Walter Cronkite and his MSM (along with Hanoi Jane) were responsible for the extension of the war and the deaths of hundreds of soldiers and most likely thousands of civilians.
Posted by CrazyFool 2008-02-03 19:35||   2008-02-03 19:35|| Front Page Top

#11 Hell, I even question the ads, and I know what they're selling
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-02-03 20:26||   2008-02-03 20:26|| Front Page Top

#12 About year ago or maybe more I began to challenge every leftist or Paleo by first casting them as HATERS of America and depending on the topic HATERS of Israel. Right off the bat, as the first order of business in most cases.

Interesting, I've only recently started doing the same thing. Amazing how well it works. I've also taken to telling Libtards and traveling companions they are Patriotically Incorrect. You should see their eyes roll around in their heads as they parse that.


First the traitors, then the enemy!
Posted by Grease Dark Lord of the Algonquins9226 2008-02-03 22:28||   2008-02-03 22:28|| Front Page Top

#13 I got to Viet Nam the first time about six weeks after the 68 Tet.
Everyone in the 4ID was talking about how we kicked their butts....hard.
The VC never were able to field anything much larger than a squad sized unit thereafter. The fight was fought exclusively by the NVA.
There were articles in Time Magazine about the mass graves in Hue. We heard all about it. I was surprised how several thousand Vietnamese in a mass grave wasn't newsworthy. Of course, it was who did the killing. We accidentialyy napalm a group of refugees and it is on the front page of the Times.
We gave away that country and we gave away thousands of lives. Much as the leftist and communists in the news media are doing today with Iraq.
It is funny how a major victory by the US forces in the Tet could get spun into a defeat by a few television correspondents who never left Saigon.
Posted by Junior Assistant Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-02-03 22:43||   2008-02-03 22:43|| Front Page Top

#14 My motto regarding the media is the same motto a good banker uses in processing loan requests - "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see."

Well, that was the motto until a few years ago when anyone could get a loan, and now they have a mess on thier hands.
Posted by www 2008-02-03 22:50||   2008-02-03 22:50|| Front Page Top

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