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2008-02-29 Home Front: Politix
Clinton Offers Child Poverty Plan
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Posted by Fred 2008-02-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 What the hell is a "food safety net"?



That's it, right?
Posted by Raj 2008-02-29 08:22||   2008-02-29 08:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Someone leaked the details, nothing available on the girls yet:

Kameradschaft was the smallest unit with 10 to 15 boys. Schar consisted of 3 Kameradschaften totaling 50-60. Gefolgschaft consisted of 3 Scharen totaling 150-190. Each Gefolgschaft, roughly the size of a military company, had its own flag and was the primary unit each Hitler Youth boy identified himself with.
Unterbann consisted of 4 Gefolgschaften totaling 600-800. There were 223 Banne with each Bann consisting of 5 Unterbanne totaling about 3,000.
An Oberbann consisted of 5 Banne totaling 15,000. The 223 Banne were divided into 42 Gebiete with each Gebiet totaling about 75,000.
The 42 Gebeite were divided into 6 Obergebiete with each Obergebiete totaling about 375,000 boys.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-02-29 08:30||   2008-02-29 08:30|| Front Page Top

#3 And how does the good Senator propose she will pay for this you may ask?

"Clinton aides said the new programs would carry an annual price-tag of $5 billion to $6 billion. A significant portion of her plan comes by expanding existing programs. She would cover the cost by toughening tax enforcement to collect money currently owed but not paid."

Yes folks, it’s the latest “Progressive” version of the ole “Blood out of a Turnip” scheme. It’s based on estimates, projections, and all that technical stuff that peons like us can’t really comprehend. Never mind that tax experts have determined that the added bureaucracy alone required to accomplish this would eventually make this a wash. But that’s really never the issue with these proposals is it? Just get it started and when the revenue dries up we will find other ways to pay for it. After all, it’s a “Safety net for the children” for Gods sake. Ask yourself, if there was any unused tax money out there to spend, don’t you think the Democrats would have already found a way to get their mitts on it?
Posted by DepotGuy 2008-02-29 08:48||   2008-02-29 08:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Dems working smarter, not harder. Also thinking outside the box.

Or...not.
Posted by Seafarious 2008-02-29 09:11||   2008-02-29 09:11|| Front Page Top

#5 The Specter of Poverty in America
Tuesday, September 21, 2004
By Robert Rector

...But to really understand poverty in America, it's important to look behind these numbers — to the actual living conditions of the individuals the government deems poor.
For most Americans, the word "poverty" suggests destitution: an inability to provide a family with nutritious food, clothing and reasonable shelter. But only a small number of the million persons classified as "poor" by the Census Bureau fit that description. Real material hardship certainly does occur, but it's limited in scope and severity. Most of America's "poor" live in material conditions that would be judged as comfortable or well-off just a few generations ago.
The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:
— Forty-six percent of all poor households own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and porch or patio.
— Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
— Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
— The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens and other European cities. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
— Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.
— Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television. Over half own two or more color televisions.
— Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
— Seventy-three percent own a microwave oven, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.
Overall, the typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family isn't hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family's essential needs. While this individual's life is not opulent, it is equally far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, activists and politicians.
Even better news is that remaining poverty can readily be reduced, especially among children. Child poverty in the U.S. is caused largely by low levels of parental work and by the absence of fathers from the home. While work and two-parent families are the surest ladders out of poverty, the welfare system continues to reward idleness while failing to provide support to keep families in tact.
To further reduce poverty, welfare should be overhauled: All able-bodied welfare recipients should be required to work or prepare for work in exchange for the aid they receive. Also, new parents in low-income communities who express interest in marriage (and research tells us there are many) should be equipped with the skills they need to create a healthy marriage, rather than be penalized when they do get married.


Poverty is the three card monty game of politics. They show you the images of classical poverty, but use the numbers of statistical poverty. If anyone else played that game it would be seen clearly as fraud. And of course, it is. Classical poverty will remain as long as there is human free will. The bulk of classical poverty in America can be summarized into four categories each of which people in the exact same economic, class, color, gender, or race are able to escape by 'choosing' other behaviors - substance abuse, creating families before attaining the skills to sustain them, blowing off one's education, and keeping to the "old ways".
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-02-29 09:21||   2008-02-29 09:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Probably make it a vegetarian program to 'preserve the rights of the animals'. It worked so well for Germany.

You want people to have more, cut taxes. I see how government spends money, I am sure people are more efficient with their own money rather than woodstock and prison museum programs, levies to pay for sports arenas and so on; nobody spends my money as well as I do. Damned communists and socialists, both hillarity and cheery-O
Posted by swksvolFF 2008-02-29 12:27||   2008-02-29 12:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Note to Clinton and Obama: Nobody is starving in the U.S. for lack of money spent by the government.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2008-02-29 12:31||   2008-02-29 12:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh look, more expensive and wasteful government spending at our expense to enrich politicians! You can't have enough of this!
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2008-02-29 12:58||   2008-02-29 12:58|| Front Page Top

#9 As I've said before, as long as the guvmint pays for it and I don't have to, I'm all for it. If they run into problems, they can just print more money.
Posted by tu3031 2008-02-29 13:05||   2008-02-29 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 The package of proposals includes a "comprehensive" early education initiative that starts with nurse's visits for pregnant women

Sounds like a scheme to allow children to vote, before they're even born yet.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-02-29 13:12||   2008-02-29 13:12|| Front Page Top

#11 The package of proposals includes a "comprehensive" early education initiative that starts with nurse's visits for pregnant women

Sounds like a scheme to allow children to vote, before they're even born yet.
Let's see now, what is your child's name going to be? Sign here. OK Now (S)he's a registered Democrat.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-02-29 13:22||   2008-02-29 13:22|| Front Page Top

#12 The package of proposals includes a "comprehensive" early education initiative that starts with nurse's visits for pregnant women

Sounds like a scheme to allow children to vote, before they're even born yet.
Let's see now, what is your child's name going to be? Sign here. OK Now (S)he's a registered Democrat. and you're now eligible for these benefits.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-02-29 13:27||   2008-02-29 13:27|| Front Page Top

#13 The package of proposals includes a "comprehensive" early education initiative that starts with nurse's visits for pregnant women

Sounds like a scheme to allow children to vote, before they're even born yet.
Let's see now, what is your child's name going to be? Sign here. OK Now (S)he's a registered Democrat. and you're now eligible for these benefits.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-02-29 13:32||   2008-02-29 13:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Mods, I don't have a clue, it refused to post, and I just waited it out, now multiple posts, let's see if this one multiplies as well.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-02-29 13:50||   2008-02-29 13:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Here, Hillary, take all my money. I'm sure you know what to do with it better than I do. /sarcasm

It's the Great Society all over again. She reminds me over and over again of old LBJ. Obama needs to think about that when he's selecting a running mate.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-02-29 14:05||   2008-02-29 14:05|| Front Page Top

#16 RNJ demonstrates the efficacy of Clinton Blogger Comment Posting Assistance Program.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-02-29 16:19||   2008-02-29 16:19|| Front Page Top

#17 "Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton offered a plan to improve childhood nutrition and set a goal to reduce by half the 12 million youngsters living in poverty over the next dozen years."

What with the declining birth rate and the fact that children do, in fact, grow up, this might just happen all by itself w/out any /sarc/ 'help'/sarcoff/ by Da'Beast.
Posted by USN, Ret. 2008-02-29 16:50||   2008-02-29 16:50|| Front Page Top

#18 Only children?...

I thought she had a plan to impoverish everybody!
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-02-29 17:54||   2008-02-29 17:54|| Front Page Top

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