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2008-07-28 India-Pakistan

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Posted by Fred 2008-07-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
File under: ISI

#1 Ho-ho , comedy gold .

Posted by Mad Eye 2008-07-28 04:39|| 2008-07-28 04:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Just the Pak military showing who's the boss

Posted by john frum 2008-07-28 08:21|| 2008-07-28 08:21|| Front Page Top

#3 That word "control." It just doesn't mean what they think it means...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2008-07-28 09:30|| 2008-07-28 09:30|| Front Page Top

#4 ISI is out of control. These are org chart shuffles.

Nobody contrls the ISI except the ISI.

Which is why we probably should be doing wet work against certain elements of their mid-level leadership.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-28 10:02|| 2008-07-28 10:02|| Front Page Top

#5 The Pak Army Command controls the ISI. This whole business of rogue operators is part of its plausible deniability strategy to cover itself.

The ISI was created by a British Major General R Cawthorne. The ISI, as its name suggests, is staffed by serving officers of the 3 Pak services - Army Navy, Air Force. They are on short term deputation to the ISI and then rotate back to their regular units.

The Pak military is a disciplined force and the ISI staff remain disciplined as they rotate into position. The ISI implements policy set by Pak GHQ.

The fiction that the ISI has gone off the reservation allows avoiding the difficult question of how to deal with the Pakistani military.

Posted by john frum 2008-07-28 10:26|| 2008-07-28 10:26|| Front Page Top

#6 The Pak military is a disciplined force and the ISI staff remain disciplined as they rotate into position.

Where did you read that? They drop their guns and run whenever the Taliwhackers approach. The get caught by the busload and held hostage. The only real revenge I have heard of them exacting on the Taliwhackers is shelling a couple of villages from several miles away.

Posted by Jirt Prince of the Lichtensteiners4128 2008-07-28 11:25|| 2008-07-28 11:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Don't confuse the Frontier Corps with the Mighty Pak Army. The FC is the bunch that gets held hostage by the bus load. The MPA has at least the minimal competence required to clean up amateurs like the TNSM or the tribal bulk of the Taliban. Since the MPA is on the same side as the TNSM and the Talibs, however, they avoid beating them up whenever they can.

It's when they're fighting the Indian army that they lose consistently, though they're not very good at learning from the experience.

Posted by Fred 2008-07-28 12:24|| 2008-07-28 12:24|| Front Page Top

#8 The paramilitary forces deployed against the Taliban are not the real Pak army.

Their offensive units have never moved from the eastern borders.

Not even decades of Islamization can remove the British military traditions. They maintain unit discipline.

It is part of Pak strategy to disavow the ISI and AQ Khan when they are exposed. Suddenly they become rogue operators.

Posted by john frum 2008-07-28 12:33|| 2008-07-28 12:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Time for some "tough love" with the Pakistanis - in the form of large nuclear blasts on the Pak nuke industry and any possible nuke storage facility, then a complete disassembly of any organizational unit. The Pakistani military is as much a terrorist organization as Hezbollah, and needs to be eradicated in the same manner - totally.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-07-28 13:53|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-07-28 13:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Time for some "tough love" with the Pakistanis - in the form of large nuclear blasts on the Pak nuke industry and any possible nuke storage facility

Did you ever consider that the winds blow from west to east?

Did you ever consider what country lies to the east of Pakistan?

I understand the sentiment, but please knock off the 'nuke' bullshit. It's become trite, it's bordering on stupid, and if it keeps up, you may find yourself sinktrapped by me.

Posted by Pappy 2008-07-28 14:54|| 2008-07-28 14:54|| Front Page Top

#11 oh, lets not worry too much about the fallout and the wind direction... we all know there are 'cleen' and 'green' nukes we can use. some of those bombs are so efficient that our own gear cant even detect them going off. Just the occasional 'seismic irregularity' that we attribute to the haliburton earthquake generation division...

Posted by Abu do you love 2008-07-28 16:44|| 2008-07-28 16:44|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm not very fired up over the subject at the moment. I figure it's only a matter of time until there's a Pak nuclear "work accident." They'll probably argue for years over whose was the "hidden hand" behind it, and never, ever admit it was the Islamic version of "Hey, y'all! Look what happens when I do this!"

Posted by Fred 2008-07-28 17:51|| 2008-07-28 17:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Official Pak policy is that they will retaliate against India if any nation uses nukes against Pakistan.

Posted by john frum 2008-07-28 18:16|| 2008-07-28 18:16|| Front Page Top

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