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2008-07-28 Olde Tyme Religion

Egyptian Islamic Preacher 'Amr Khaled: Within 20 Years, Muslims Will Be Majority in Europe

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Posted by anonymous5089 2008-07-28 13:22|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 He's right, so you have to wonder why Islam provoked a fight instead of waiting... Unless perhaps the Jihadists know that although birthrates are strong there is something else going on that could threaten things.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-07-28 14:17|| 2008-07-28 14:17|| Front Page Top

#2 It is harder to live on the dole when you are the majority.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-07-28 14:17|| 2008-07-28 14:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Actually they won't.

There won't be the immigration levels seen in the past (from Algeria (into France), Pakistan )(into the UK) and Turkey (into Germany). European Muslim birthrates are falling. Subsequent generations will be even more alienated from the culture of their parents.

This is a hard thing for the Islamists to accept. The Koran promises that the Muslims will conquer. That the infidel will accept Islam.

The Muslim population in Europe will still be a minority and thus bereft of economic and political power. A minority amidst a majority that doesn't really care about the tenets of Islam.

Islam, an Arab religion, served the socioeconomic interests of certain Arab tribes. When Judaism in the Yeman threatened the interests of Christian Arabs, they took to Islam in order to seize power. Islam thrives when there are nearby cultures and societies available for plunder.

Without military power however, and as a poor minority, the followers of the prophet have far less incentive to remain true to the faith.

It is important for the masses in the Muslim world to believe in the inevitability of Islam though. Hence speeches like that from Amr Khaled will find a ready audience.

Because the truth of their situation will shatter their belief system.

Posted by john frum 2008-07-28 15:11|| 2008-07-28 15:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Shatter away, I say.

Soonest.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-07-28 15:13|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-07-28 15:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Unfortunately the cognitive dissonance that arises from being presented with reality (as opposed to what a Muslim child has been taught) typically finds expression in rage and jihadi activity.

The majority, who are able to reconcile themselves with Islam as a personal belief system confined to the private sphere, rather than an over-arching identity or ideology of supremacy, will be able to adapt.

The minority will lash out...

Posted by john frum 2008-07-28 15:18|| 2008-07-28 15:18|| Front Page Top

#6 I hope you're right, but I have my doubts. Especially about converts. In any case, I doubt I'll live to see the resolution, so it will neither disturb nor delight.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-07-28 15:25|| 2008-07-28 15:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Alos he is assumming that Muslims in Europe will remain such. May become nominal Muslims and if we had a conceted effort not fpr conversion but fpr protection of apostates Islm in Europe would melt.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-07-28 17:51|| 2008-07-28 17:51|| Front Page Top

#8 As per IRNA > CHINESE at this time comprise the largest number of FOREIGNERS in GERMANY???

See also TOPIX > FEAR OF A CHINESE PLANET?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-07-28 19:07|| 2008-07-28 19:07|| Front Page Top

#9 European Muslim birthrates are falling. Subsequent generations will be even more alienated from the culture of their parents.

Agreed with the second point, john frum, and your claim about birthrates is plausible, but where did you get that first tidbit?

JosephM, regardless of birthrate increases in China, they are missing so many females in the childrearing generation that it will surely affect population.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-07-28 19:33|| 2008-07-28 19:33|| Front Page Top

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