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US Officials: FBI in Charge of the Pirates

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Posted by Sherry 2009-04-11 13:04|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 This is Operations or nothing is. This is the nub of the issue: Are these pirates or alleged larcenists. The 0bama administration appears to be coming out in favor of the later. This idiot is going to let things go until the whole nation demands war so that, like Roosevelt, he can distract attention from his economic blunders.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-11 13:12|| 2009-04-11 13:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Fuck. Barry may best Jimmuh in the longest held hostage department. My best wishes for the Captain and all future vistims.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-11 13:32|| 2009-04-11 13:32|| Front Page Top

#3 No.

They are pirates, not criminals. They have the right to be hung or shot, and that's about it.

Posted by Parabellum 2009-04-11 14:13|| 2009-04-11 14:13|| Front Page Top

#4 The FBI has no business here. This is warfare. Leave it to the pro's.

The FBI investigates crimes. The basic premis here is that they do it AFTER the fact. This is defense and we as a nation must always be on the offense. The desk officer in Kenya can not solve theis not can the investigators in New York prevent this, only sailors on partol can, well and some well placed OGA's.

Let's see the FBI has a great history when dealing with the terrorists. They paid the ASG 300k, they did a wonderful job with the Klinghoffer (sp) hostage, 911, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City, Den Dozier, etc...

Note to the FBI.. Let the SEAL teams deal with this and go back and deal with the white collar criminals that got out country into this economic crisis!

Spitting mad!

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-04-11 14:18|| 2009-04-11 14:18|| Front Page Top

#5 So pissed I did not spell check, Sorry.

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-04-11 14:19|| 2009-04-11 14:19|| Front Page Top

#6 The only valid use for the FBI, State dept or any negotiations is to improve the potential of a SEAL team being successful in recovering the hostages. This is a friggin joke. Our nation figured out how to handle pirates very early in its history. I cannot believe we forgot.

Piracy and terrorism are not law enforcement problems.

Posted by JAB 2009-04-11 14:37|| 2009-04-11 14:37|| Front Page Top

#7 a classic at AOSHQ:
34 I heard the FBI was out there. They must be copying DVDs. I knew that anti-piracy warning was serious.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 11, 2009 12:52 PM

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-04-11 14:41|| 2009-04-11 14:41|| Front Page Top

#8 I desperately hope someone in charge or advising those in charge know that we tried to buy our way out of our last pirate problem and it didn't work.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-11 14:42|| 2009-04-11 14:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Lol! Frank.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-11 14:42|| 2009-04-11 14:42|| Front Page Top

#10 I still have that one owner Buick. Owned by a senoir citizen.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-11 14:44|| 2009-04-11 14:44|| Front Page Top

#11 Even more worrying in the short term is the FBI's experience in this environment. Sure, the FBI are excellent hostage negotiators, but

1. Only inside of the USA. Will their psychological techniques work on Somali pirates?

2. On land. Really, how many hostage situations has the FBI handled involving a lifeboat on the open ocean? Lack of technical understanding is likely to get someone killed.

Posted by Plastic Snoopy 2009-04-11 15:25|| 2009-04-11 15:25|| Front Page Top

#12 Great. Maybe they can bring in the BATF, borrow a couple patrol boats from the Coast Guard and hire Janet Reno as a technical expert.

If it's gonna be a farce, then make it a full-blown production.

Posted by Pappy 2009-04-11 18:21|| 2009-04-11 18:21|| Front Page Top

#13 Mike N: Give it a 6 months, if Bambi screws this up like we expect, then somebody is going to try something similar. They'll push the limit on what can be used "legally".

I'm personally for shooting Beetles off at the pirates. Takes up less room and more to fire.

Posted by Charles 2009-04-11 19:01|| 2009-04-11 19:01|| Front Page Top

#14 FBI attorney in New York hard at work freeing the hostage.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-11 19:10|| 2009-04-11 19:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Here's what the good Cap't is in:
Photo of an enclosed lifeboat similar to the one found on the Maersk Alabama

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2009-04-11 20:34|| 2009-04-11 20:34|| Front Page Top

#16 Someone posted a link the other day to the Boston Whaler website.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-11 20:40|| 2009-04-11 20:40|| Front Page Top

#17 Sherry,

Since it's you, I'll assume that's not sarcasm and that is the vessel. It seems as if, given it's out of fuel, it ought to be easy for SEALS to tie up to and the Bainbridge to tow out to sea where discussions can proceed on a less equal footing.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-11 20:45|| 2009-04-11 20:45|| Front Page Top

#18 Thanks Nimble -- I've seen this picture shown on several news reports over the last few days, so I'm thinking, it's the real thing. The word "enclosed" is often used in the news report.

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2009-04-11 20:54|| 2009-04-11 20:54|| Front Page Top

#19 Oh yea, here's the site I got this -- he's got all kinds of info on it

Worth reading

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2009-04-11 20:56|| 2009-04-11 20:56|| Front Page Top

#20 Thanks Sherry. Makes me wonder how he could have escaped and why the Bainbridge is hundreds of yards away.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-11 21:02|| 2009-04-11 21:02|| Front Page Top

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