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2010-07-31 Fifth Column

Bradley Manning, suspected source of Wikileaks documents, raged on his Facebook page

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Posted by tipper 2010-07-31 08:49|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 FTA: "Mr Manning, who is openly homosexual, began his gloomy postings on January...."

So much for don't ask, don't tell. Must have been a really thorough background check, NOT.

Posted by tipover 2010-07-31 11:03|| 2010-07-31 11:03|| Front Page Top

#2 When did he allegedly start downloading this stuff?

Posted by gorb 2010-07-31 11:41|| 2010-07-31 11:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Hmmm. A PFC with waaaaay more access to large volumes of classified info than he should have had - check. Said PFC with a seriously dodgy background - check. Can you say "Obamunist-engineered intentional leak for the purpose of helping The One's media operatives undermine the war effort," boys and girls? I knew you could!

[/Mr. Rogers]

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2010-07-31 12:05|| 2010-07-31 12:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Too bad, kid. No Facebook in Quantico. Probably gay sex though, so at least you got that going for you. But it might be a little rougher then you're used to.
See ya in about a hundred years. Maybe Assange will send you a Christmas card...

Posted by tu3031 2010-07-31 12:18|| 2010-07-31 12:18|| Front Page Top

#5 #3 Hmmm. A PFC with waaaaay more access to large volumes of classified info than he should have had

I'm thinking the same thing.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-07-31 12:57|| 2010-07-31 12:57|| Front Page Top

#6 The Army had three failures involving leadership involving supervision of immediate subordinates. Abu Ghraib, Major Hasan, and the Wikileaker. All three were strategic defeats of the order of losing a battle. None involved direct combat arms on combat situations.

The Army needs to update its LMET courses to include these failures.

Posted by Penguin 2010-07-31 13:26|| 2010-07-31 13:26|| Front Page Top

#7 It does beg the question, and since I'm not mil/ex-mil, perhaps someone at Rantburg U can answer the question --

-- how often do junior enlisted personnel get secret and top-secret clearances, and how often are they entrusted with classified information?

I can imagine that a PFC might have assignments that would require them to handle classified info and therefore be screened, etc., but is that typical?

Second question: if PFC Manning was screened, did the personnel doing said screening uncover any warning signs? If not, why not -- seems like they were right there in the open.

Posted by Steve White 2010-07-31 13:27|| 2010-07-31 13:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Leadership Management Education & Training (LMET).

Posted by Besoeker 2010-07-31 13:30|| 2010-07-31 13:30|| Front Page Top

#9 -- how often do junior enlisted personnel get secret and top-secret clearances, and how often are they entrusted with classified information?

It is very common for lower raking enlisted personnel to have a SECRET clearance, granted or based on a National Agency Check or NAC. Today, many battlefield systems as well as information systems require a Secret or what is referred to as "collateral access" as do facilities in which sensitive operational planning is conducted. A Top Secret or TS level of clearance is a lengthy process (can take up to 2 years) which is generally initiated based on the soldier's need or anticipated need for specific access to TS level documents or systems. Interum access is sometimes granted pending final adjudication of the TS clearance. There are numerous security level caveats beyond TS which can also be required and granted as well. Eligability for these caveats is based once again, on very specific needs. Other government agencies have entirely different processes and proceduress which generally parallel that of DoD, but can require much more stringent and evasive updates and personnel monitoring procedures.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-07-31 13:49|| 2010-07-31 13:49|| Front Page Top

#10 Check to see who he winds up with as his defense counsel. If he winds up with a phalanx of these treasonous tools at his defense table, to me that'll serve as ABSOLUTE CONFIRMATION that this "leak scandal" was set up by Ogabe appointees in the DoD to assist in the undermining of our war effort.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2010-07-31 16:20|| 2010-07-31 16:20|| Front Page Top

#11 You have to wonder what happened to "need to know". It used to be that intelligence files were hard copy folders physically located in a fixed location, with limited copies circulated to those who needed to know, whether they were people who specifically requested them, or task-related personnel. These days, with the computerization of, and universal access to (provided permission is given), military intelligence data, it appears that lazy system administrators or ignorant policy-makers have given the keys to the kingdom to mere privates. I am glad we have found out about these lapses during the equivalent of a bush war, rather than an all-out war (i.e. war with a peer competitor like Russia or China).

Posted by Zhang Fei 2010-07-31 16:41|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com 2010-07-31 16:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Old saying: Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Corollary: If you want ANY chance at all of keeping it secret, don't put it on a hard drive...

Posted by M. Murcek 2010-07-31 20:39|| 2010-07-31 20:39|| Front Page Top

#13 This guy sounds like Intel records clerk and the messages are hardly "Top Secret" as far as I can tell. The guy obviously had access to a repository of classified reports (prob on a server). Yes we give E-1s clearances Top Secret and above if they need to do their job. We can't detect whacko, but I bet his fellow soldiers will shed some light on that.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2010-07-31 21:42|| 2010-07-31 21:42|| Front Page Top

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