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2010-10-13 Europe
The Geert Wilders Trial, Day 3
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Posted by  2010-10-13 02:41|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 One wonders if they are going to actually play fitna at the trial.
Posted by CrazyFool 2010-10-13 09:34||   2010-10-13 09:34|| Front Page Top

#2 One wonders if they are going to actually play fitna at the trial

According to Sappho they did, CrazyFool. Hence the journalist's comment.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-13 11:01||   2010-10-13 11:01|| Front Page Top

#3 The judges of the Court of the city of Amsterdam, however, decided that Wilders had to face charges on racism, group insult, discrimination, hate speech and blasphemy.

These are crimes? Then why don't they ban the Koran? These people better wake up before it's too late.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-10-13 12:24||   2010-10-13 12:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Since when is Islam a race?
Posted by CrazyFool 2010-10-13 14:04||   2010-10-13 14:04|| Front Page Top

#5 The Scotsman reports

However, prosecutors have dropped one charge against him, of insulting a group on the basis of its religion, noting that his statements have been mostly directed toward Islam as an ideology, rather than Muslims.

He is still charged with inciting hatred and discrimination against Muslims. Under Dutch law, it is illegal to insult or incite hatred against a group of people on the basis of gender, religion, race or sexuality.


It remains to be seen whether the judges will agree with the prosecutors' recommendation -- they didn't agree with the original prosecutorial decision not to prosecute, after all.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-13 17:13||   2010-10-13 17:13|| Front Page Top

#6 ....so by extrapolation -

a newspaper which had originated in the Second World War as Dutch Resistance's pamphlet.

could be prosecuted for insulting or inciting hatred against a group of people, ie Germans? [rhet question] Given that a number of the Dutch seemed to have supported them, I make a reasonable bet that the prosecutor in this case probably would.
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-10-13 18:46||   2010-10-13 18:46|| Front Page Top

#7 So if he was to insult the Church of the SubGenius, that would be a crime? I mean, if you disagree with the tenets of a religion doesn't that also imply that the followers of that religion are, to say the least, mistaken? And is that not then an insult? So how are we to discuss the relative merits of different religions? Does Dutch law say we cannot do this? Then Dutch law is a jackass.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-10-13 19:32||   2010-10-13 19:32|| Front Page Top

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