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2010-12-23 International-UN-NGOs
UN joint statement on Wikileaks
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Posted by anon1 2010-12-23 17:49|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Apologies Fred, I was too quick to hit submit and I forgot to put the right things in the category boxes.

Merry Christmas, I hope you have a wonderful and peaceful New Year - and good luck with your legal battle.

Wishing you all the best, and thank you for providing such a wonderful site.
Posted by anon1 2010-12-23 17:54||   2010-12-23 17:54|| Front Page Top

#2 anon1 - we know the UN is an anti-American institution... Do you need to rub it in?
Posted by Water Modem 2010-12-23 18:08||   2010-12-23 18:08|| Front Page Top

#3 how do you respond to the rape-rape accusations against your Pimp Assange? Go away and take your fangirl naivety.
Posted by Frank G 2010-12-23 18:25||   2010-12-23 18:25|| Front Page Top

#4 The UN can kiss my skinny pink butt.

Get the UN out of the US, and the US out of the UN!
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2010-12-23 18:40||   2010-12-23 18:40|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm not convinced the folks at the UN consider rape/rape to be a crime. Judging by UN troops activities from time to time and the UN's unwillingness to do much about it.
Posted by rjschwarz 2010-12-23 18:43||   2010-12-23 18:43|| Front Page Top

#6 Dear Ms. Marino and Mr. LaRue:

Surely you would not approve the release of intelligence products and capabilities provided to you by member nations, or financial figures associated with UN pay and compensations? Or the incidences of internal larceny, theft, misappropriation, sexcapades, and corruption, or UN member nation uniformed force casualty figures.

Surely not.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-23 18:52||   2010-12-23 18:52|| Front Page Top

#7 I wasn't fully on one side or the other until this...know I know - wikileaks is indefensable. Not only by the company kept, such as the UN, but said report puts it right in perspective for me.

That the UN can make such a statement without applying and insisting that all members of the UN now must disclose all communiques starting with themselves. Starting with housing arrangements at chowder bay. Then lets go to Cambodia and the mayham wreacked upon the little kids, and demand to have access to all accounting information so to show and prove the obvious graft and pay-to-play bullshit which goes on there, a farce of parliament of man.

What assangel has done is likely not the first person to have gained access to said files - there have been numerous reports from the years about hackers turning in such people. Assangel has likely not revealed any information which apparently a half-assed espionage operation could have accomplished. Assangel has not even really revealed anything many, such as some little hayseed middle america could strongly suspect....other than methods and uses of informers.

So basically he is the jackass who went ahead and burned the crayon. He is the d!k who stands behind you when playing poker and makes faces then talks about your hand after the play is done.

What I do not understand is that given a long enough timeline something like this was bound to happen, and to the USA because it is the juiciest target which would not automatically take Assangel's nuts out via trachia, the US government seems 2 turns out of the lead.

And many of the decisions will be justified, and could be the largest propaganda coup in the 21st in favor of the USA.

So yeah, for a glorified tattletale hiding behind his big sister, wow. Could have convinced me the other way to some degree but by the company, his comrades suck ants from a continent away.
Posted by swksvolFF 2010-12-23 19:23||   2010-12-23 19:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Wired magazine just discovered that Mr. Assange used to be a blackhat hacker, who for several years had a backdoor into the DoD website/computer/thingy. This probably took more cleverness than the hack into the Harvard grades computer one of my high school computer club members did back in 1978.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-23 20:13||   2010-12-23 20:13|| Front Page Top

#9 As said, not the only person ever born who could do a hack, just the only one to do it like this.

The UN's crap letter - what does issue 1. mean anyways, could that be interpreted as if I go to court for any reason I am in the public system? Illigitimate action? Right to participate in government? Filtering systems? 3/4 of the world is an oppressive craphole where people get killed for attempting to participate in their local government.

Its a bullshit statement written by bullshitters. Self-regulating journalists, really? Suddenly every dipwad with a camera is a protected journalist. Ethical codes, whose ethical codes? Who defines those, the upcoming human rights committee?

I mean my god, somebody tapes a football practise and the news goes apeshit, but disclose sensitive diplomatic missions and hey, no biggie.

And from what I understand the mission was to expose select governments' explanations for invading Iraq. That could have been done without the document drop of everything, including embassy coms with nations not even involved in the OEF. I admit that it is fun to see that some here were throwing great darts with an expose, but to call it a great deal for the little man against big gov to me comes across as putting 5 pound of crap in a 2 pound box. Effn shadow elves anyways.
Posted by swksvolFF 2010-12-23 20:37||   2010-12-23 20:37|| Front Page Top

#10 "United Nations (UN) Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Opinion and Expression and the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression"

No actual freedom or human rights involved, of course. It's the U.N. and a so-called "Human Rights" Commission, after all.

"see fit to recall a number of international legal principles. The rapporteurs call upon States and other relevant actors to keep these principles in mind when responding to the aforementioned developments."

Blah, blah, blah.

Oh, shaddap.

It should be illegal to use the words "principles" and "U.N." in the same context. >:-(

Does anybody know what this says? The "rapporteurs" obviously don't.

(And am I the only one who wants to point and laugh at anyone who calls themselves "rapporteur"?)
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-12-23 22:03||   2010-12-23 22:03|| Front Page Top

#11 I also think the UN is a useless organisation by and large. I'd be happy to see the US (which funds about 1/4 of the UN's budget) simply cut off the funds and use it to fund programs to make the country an even better place to live. You know: build new roads, hospitals, schools. Why should that money be spent on the UN it's a useless POS

However Julian Assange is not a rapist, he is the editor of a news source site.

He correctly pinpointed a big and growing problem in western democracies: yours, mine, the UK etc.

Whistleblowers do not leak to reporters any more. There are no deep throats these days. This is because they are hunted down and found through their emails, mobile phone records and then their lives are made hell.

Assange wants open, transparent, accountable government: noble aspirations.

It is what all reporters want: the freedom to report what is going on.

You hate it right now because it is US Government cables being leaked.

But you are not looking at the big picture. It is not about the US Goverment at all.

People all over the world can safely leak to wikileaks. THat means we can find out the dirt on every government. Including China, Russia, North Korea, Iran.

Wikileaks will change the world. It will enable citizens to know more what their governments are up to and hold them to account.

Why be afraid of freedom and transparency? THat is what makes our societies more resilient than dictatorships.

Assange has given the world a wonderful gift that will promote freedom and good governance everywhere.

In return the governments of several countries have persecuted him: getting paypal/visa/mastercard et al to suspend services, perverting the justice system in a disgusting manner.

That was a disgraceful attack by the state on an individual citizen.

SO our paths have diverged. I disagree with you all on Assange and Wikileaks.

I still wish you all a good christmas and happy new year.

Bye!
Posted by anon1 2010-12-23 23:47||   2010-12-23 23:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Assange wants open, transparent, accountable government: noble aspirations.

In an ignoble world? Not possible.
Posted by gorb 2010-12-23 23:58||   2010-12-23 23:58|| Front Page Top

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