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2011-04-02 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Radiation flowing into the sea
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Posted by anon1 2011-04-02 04:39|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 It was only a matter of time... all that water being pumped in to cool the partially-melted fuel rods would eventually trickle down and find its way out.

Now it goes into the food chain, the algae then the fish then the bigger fish then us as we eat them. Then we get cancer and birth defects.

Posted by anon1 2011-04-02 04:41||   2011-04-02 04:41|| Front Page Top

#2 So quit eating, drinking & breathing, maybe you will live forever.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-04-02 05:13||   2011-04-02 05:13|| Front Page Top

#3 WaPo has a related article: Insufficient monitoring has become a pressing safety issue at the plant. Nuclear regulators warned Tepco on Friday that every worker must wear a radiation-monitoring dosimeter to keep track of exposure.

The warning came in response to a revelation Thursday by company officials that most of their dosimeters had been destroyed by the tsunami. Sometimes only group leaders were given a badge. Tepco officials on Friday said they had obtained more badges and that all workers would wear one.

More boneheaded negligence. How long would it have taken TEPCO to get dosimeters flown in from anywhere in the world to use with each worker IF THEY HAD ONLY ASKED?
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-04-02 05:35||   2011-04-02 05:35|| Front Page Top

#4 And this report from the Guardian borders on nonsensical:
According to the few reliable descriptions of conditions at the plant, the workers are given just two meals a day – crackers and a small carton of vegetable juice for breakfast; dried rice and canned fish or chicken for dinner – and take naps in cramped corridors on lead-lined sheets to limit their exposure to radiation.

"That's where they sleep, with only one blanket each to wrap themselves around," said Kazuma Yokota, a Nisa official who spent five days at the plant.

Yokota said the rush to save the plant meant some workers had been unable to change their underwear, while high radiation levels were hampering the arrival of fresh supplies.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-04-02 05:55||   2011-04-02 05:55|| Front Page Top

#5 "Radioactive particles" are like dust. "Radiation" is like light.

"Light flowing into the sea".
Posted by  Anonymoose 2011-04-02 09:24||   2011-04-02 09:24|| Front Page Top

#6 our resident hysteric has palpitations

*yawn*
Posted by Frank G 2011-04-02 10:08||   2011-04-02 10:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Come on, guys. This is serious. If the radiation flowing into the sea combines with the radiation streaming in from the Sun and outer space, the streams could cross and before you know it, once again giant rubber monsters are stomping down Tokyo. I'm not even going to mention the Unstoppable Neutrino Flux, except to point out that it is unstoppable.

Like some hippie chick said, the man who invented radiation should be shot.
Posted by SteveS 2011-04-02 10:37||   2011-04-02 10:37|| Front Page Top

#8 The inability to read is called illiteracy. The inability to work with numbers is called innumeracy. The inability to think is called journalism.
Posted by rwv 2011-04-02 16:32||   2011-04-02 16:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Now it goes into the food chain, the algae then the fish then the bigger fish

Yes and then Godzirra! will rise again to trash Tokyo once more!

Seriously anon1 do you even read what you write to grasp the logic fallacy?
Posted by Valentine 2011-04-02 16:58||   2011-04-02 16:58|| Front Page Top

#10 I saw a National Geographic or some such show some months ago about the nature of Chernobyl a decade following the accident. It was gorgeous, as such things are, full of flowers and animals, and even a bear of some sort breaking into a house. The thing that the orotund voice-over kept remarking upon was the complete absence of mutated critters, whether plant or animal -- not even extra toes or the slightest in-the-dark glow. The focus of the show, such as it was, was a mama cat and her kittens, living in the house the bear took. As peak predators, the effects of the radiation should have accumulated in them, and yet all were utterly, normally adorable.

This suggests two things to me in my ignorance: most mutations self-destruct in the womb, and Darwin prunes even more severely under straitened circumstances than he does normally. Only in hot-houses do the sports survive and multiply, producing wonderfully striped tulips to bankrupt the Dutch.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-04-02 17:19||   2011-04-02 17:19|| Front Page Top

#11 Water levels are now low enough in tap water in all areas to be safe for babies except for one location, the village immediately adjacent to the plant. The radiation level of the water there is now safe for adult consumption but still too high for infant consumption but there is nobody there anyway.

Earlier reports of radiation contaminated meat turned out to be a measuring error.

The international nuclear agency is reported that no worker has currently received more than the allowed 250mSv accumulated dose allowed for rad workers in an emergency (which is half the dose allowed for rad workers in most of the rest of the world, Japan has the lowest allowable dose of any nuclear power).

The international agency says that so far they consider Fukushima Dai-ichi to be a "minor" event and they have had significantly worse events in places like Thailand and Indonesia when it comes to radioactive contamination.

The water in unit 2 may be coming from the reactor or it may have come from overflow from initial efforts to dowse spent fuel pools. The doors leading to the basement of unit 2 were damaged and would not close. But they do suspect there is a water leak someplace in the #2 turbine building but they can't search for it until they get that water pumped out.

Workers that had been in the unit 2 basement have all been cleared, there were no "beta burns" and none of them received greater than the allowed dose of radiation.

So far .. nobody killed, nobody injured, and nobody sickened by radiation and it is likely nobody will be.

The reactor temperatures continue to decline:

"The indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the RPV has decreased from 256 °C to 249 °C and at the bottom of RPV decreased from 128 °C to 119 °C." Unit 1

"The indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the RPV has decreased from 165 °C to 161 °C. The temperature at the bottom of RPV was not reported. " Unit 2

"The indicated temperature at the feed water nozzle of the RPV is about 119 °C and at the bottom of RPV is about 90 °C." Unit 3

So unit 3 is very near "cold shutdown" conditions and it looks like they will be in pretty good shape once they can find the water leak in unit 2 that is seeping water into the basement.
Posted by crosspatch 2011-04-02 17:32||   2011-04-02 17:32|| Front Page Top

#12 I am so stealing that, rwv. :-D
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-02 17:37||   2011-04-02 17:37|| Front Page Top

#13 Wassa matta with you, crosspatch - ya' trying to confuse the librul weenies with facts?

That's cruel. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-02 17:41||   2011-04-02 17:41|| Front Page Top

#14 Seesh, meant "radiation levels" are now low enough.

Posted by crosspatch 2011-04-02 17:56||   2011-04-02 17:56|| Front Page Top

#15 Barbara, anon1 and others KNOW that ALL radiation is harmful and must be avoided. I'll bet that she doesn't go out into the sun, use a microwave, watch television, or even use a computer.
Oh, wait...
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-04-02 18:03||   2011-04-02 18:03|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm stealing it too RWV... LOL!
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-04-02 22:19||   2011-04-02 22:19|| Front Page Top

#17 You can see "the crack" in this video:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/03_01.html

Posted by crosspatch 2011-04-02 23:34||   2011-04-02 23:34|| Front Page Top

#18 So IOW, Fukushima could still end up being "CHERNOBYL II", or even a "SUPER/MEGA-CHERNOBYL" as AFAIK Tokyo itself says that high-yield explosions can still occur.

And not counting any new EarthQuakies.

Sub-IOW, Tokyo should keep handy those international invites from foreign Govts for Japanese to come + stay in their countries, includ iff need be for Japanese to PERMANENTLY GIVE UP JAPAN AS THEIR SOVEREIGN HOMELAND.

* MAHA-RUSHIAN QUESTION OF THE DAY = WILL LIBYUH'S UNCLE MUAMMAR STAY WID HIS PREGGERS UKRAINIAN NURSE-GIRLFRIEND BACK IN UKRAINE OR RUSSIA, OR ELSE FIND A NEW NIPPON BABE(S) AMONGST THE UKRAINE'S? RUSSIA.S? [Other?] MILYUHNS-N-DILYUHNS OF NEW JAPANESE CITIZENS-RESIDENTS FRESH FROM "CHERNOBYL, FORMER JAPAN STATE"???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-04-02 23:43||   2011-04-02 23:43|| Front Page Top

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