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2011-10-16 Science & Technology

Faster-than-Light Neutrino Puzzle Claimed Solved by Special Relativity

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Posted by tipper 2011-10-16 11:52|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Commissioned a study of GPS about a decade ago to figure out how "fine grained" I could use its time results to stamp recordings of packets across a geographic area for relationship analysis. (cause and effect etc..)... Study came back 60ns so set my measurement bucket threshold at 120ns. Note it's the same 60ns they are arguing about here.
That implies poor science at the backend of this experiment.

Posted by Water Modem 2011-10-16 12:49|| 2011-10-16 12:49|| Front Page Top

#2 If they had a passive repeater antenna to get the signal down into the mountain it would be worse.

Posted by Water Modem 2011-10-16 12:51|| 2011-10-16 12:51|| Front Page Top

#3 It always sounded a bit iffy as they couldn't send a laser beam there and back (or the neutrinos) in order to get a proper "relativistic ping" test

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-10-16 12:52|| 2011-10-16 12:52|| Front Page Top

#4 It gets worse. You need storage and communication and timing and drivers on the measurement platform. If you use a PC and custom OS you might be able to tweak the platform clock down to a jittery 50ns. If you use specialized hardware (SGI etc) you might get a jumpy 5ns. If you are writing to disk or memory or have a interrupt or whatever forget that measurement. The same for processing communication or GPS signal. What you need is an OS that syncs its local clock with the GPS once in awhile.. with all the latency of the sync accounted for. The local computer clock needs to be temp controlled or calibrated at all conditions. You can't use a commercial OS like windows... Gates doesn't give enough info to understand the time constraints. (I know as I used to try working with them on this as we had a boss who was windows-centric) Best is a rigorous real-time multi-processing OS with separate processors for communications and storage. (maybe time to?)
It doesn't sound like they did this basic science.

Posted by Water Modem 2011-10-16 13:19|| 2011-10-16 13:19|| Front Page Top

#5 ION RENSE > US SCIENTISTS PATENTS TIME MACHINE.
Dr. Marvin B. Pohlman from Tulsa, OK.

Either those visiting Space Aliens are our Star Relatives or Graduate Students from Rigel Space University, OR THE CANNIBAL MORLOCKS WILL BE COMING BACK IN TIME TO EAT THEIR PRE-NUCWAR/CATACLYSM HUMAN ANCESTORS???

The Morlocks are coming, the Morlocks are coming!

[TWILIGHT ZONE = "TO SERVE MAN" Episode here].

* SAME > GOVT. CAMERAS [standardized]IN YOUR CAR? E-TOLL PATENT HINTS AT BIG BROTHERISH FUTURE.

Whoa, Sith Lord Darth Vader was George Jetson's illegitimate son - who knew?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-10-16 20:09|| 2011-10-16 20:09|| Front Page Top

#6 DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > US GRAVITATIONAL WAVE DETECTORS LOOKING AT INDIA AS A POSSIBLE SITE, for 3rd GW Interferometer.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-10-16 21:05|| 2011-10-16 21:05|| Front Page Top

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