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2012-09-08 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Vatican official says Israel fostering intolerance of Christianity

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Posted by lotp 2012-09-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Mum on Muzzies blowing churches and butchering Christians every day.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-09-08 08:07|| 2012-09-08 08:07|| Front Page Top

#2 That's your excuse?

Posted by Pappy 2012-09-08 09:01|| 2012-09-08 09:01|| Front Page Top

#3 g(r) - that was beneath you. Christians are Israel's greatest friend and ally. This behavior is as unacceptable as anti-semitism, and should be rooted out as viciously

Posted by Frank G 2012-09-08 10:00|| 2012-09-08 10:00|| Front Page Top

#4 It's the Telegraph. I'm dubious. From the Galilee to Bethlehem, almost all of the significant Christian holy places are in the hands on the P.A.

I strongly suspect it's Paleo aggression being blamed on Jews (as usual) and covered for by the usual apologists and anti-semites.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2012-09-08 11:57|| 2012-09-08 11:57|| Front Page Top

#5 That's your excuse?

No. My reason is that anybody who claims that Christians are discriminated against in Israel is a lying piece of shit!

g(r) - that was beneath you. Christians are Israel's greatest friend and ally.

We are aware of this. And, in consequence, we tolerate behavior from representatives of various Christian churches which would not be tolerated in any other place in the World. Like this lying piece of garbage Fr Pierbattista Pizzaballa.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-09-08 13:01|| 2012-09-08 13:01|| Front Page Top

#6 2011 tourist figures. Wik sez 54% were Christian. Appears to be a buttload of people ignoring the .... "Intolerance":

United States: 633,868
Russia: 491,469
France: 300,566
United Kingdom: 221,095
Germany: 220,692
Ukraine: 137,342
Italy: 151,252
Poland: 95,958
Canada: 76,636
Netherlands: 63,053
Brazil: 56,889
Ppain: 56,204
Nigeria: 45,095
Switzerland: 40,912
Romania: 40,255
India: 38,870
Belgium: 37,039
Austria: 35,166
Australia: 34,203
South Korea: 32,718

Posted by Besoeker 2012-09-08 13:23|| 2012-09-08 13:23|| Front Page Top

#7 I've heard two things, grom. a) Christians in the rest of the middle east (bar Lebanon) are typically incomparably worse off than in Israel and b) Christians are sometimes discriminated against in Israel by Jews.
I have not heard anything like Pizzaballa's claims, though--at least not from sources I know to be reliable.

Posted by James 2012-09-08 16:39|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2012-09-08 16:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Christians in the rest of the middle east (bar Lebanon) are typically incomparably worse off than in Israel

James,
I would not exempt Christians in Lebanon from the list.

Posted by Frozen Al 2012-09-08 19:49|| 2012-09-08 19:49|| Front Page Top

#9 "Ultra-Orthodox Jews, including children as young as eight, spit at members of the clergy on a daily basis, Fr Pizzaballa said."

Among the 6.5M or so Jews in Israel, there are about 700k who are Haredim and there may be ten to twenty who engage in this kind of action and possibly even one Rabbi who encourages it (I think my daughter told me she met someone like this once).

Obviously the Rabbinate should find out who and put a stop to it.

But, as other commentators have pointed out, this should be compared to the much more serious persecutions of Christians by Moslems.

Posted by lord garth 2012-09-08 21:03|| 2012-09-08 21:03|| Front Page Top

#10 It ought also be remembered that the Christians of the Middle East, including in Israel, are pretty traditional in terms of their antisemitism. The Pope has had some problems with his lot on that account.

Posted by trailing wife 2012-09-08 21:54|| 2012-09-08 21:54|| Front Page Top

#11 These are all true.

But the claim here is that anti-Christian hatred is being recently encouraged, and specifically serves to scapegoat them by a group angry about issues such as military service and settlements. And that sort of scapegoating is, unfortunately, a dynamic that is not unknown when crises are pending but have not yet arrived.

Posted by lotp 2012-09-08 22:27|| 2012-09-08 22:27|| Front Page Top

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