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2013-10-28 Home Front: Politix
Cheney: Mideast Allies No Longer Trust The US, Enemies 'Don't Fear Us'
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Posted by Steve White 2013-10-28 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [896 views ]  Top

#1 I would think he's got a Parker GHE 12 Gauge or two that probably needs cleaning. How about it Dick? Can't you just leave us alone ?
Posted by Besoeker 2013-10-28 01:51||   2013-10-28 01:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Cheney is right. Our overseas status now horrible. Much worse than when W was in office.

The only thing that the NPR-listening pseudointellectuals and their footsoldiers in government employment care about is if their leftist counterparts in other countries like the US or not - not the general population. The welfare crowd, they don't care about anything as long as the EBT cards work.

For a few years the transnationals in other places did like the new, collectivist, leftist administration. Now that is likely over. The whole Merkel affair has publicly popped the bubble of illusion.

There comes a point when no amount of flowery rhetoric and ideology can cover up the fecal stink of hypocrisy and incompetence and intolerance.The regime's latest bungled attempt to smooth things over is to lie and say that Obama didn't know, which the regime really thought would placate, but of course makes them look even worse in terms of incompetence. It is a measure of how stupid and out of touch with basic human behavior the White House truly is that not a single person there could anticipate that such a response would make things worse and not better.

Posted by no mo uro 2013-10-28 05:23||   2013-10-28 05:23|| Front Page Top

#3 After the mess this war criminal left the US, why would anyone give two sh*ts about what he had to say about anything...oh, except for maybe Tea Party wannabes....
Posted by Jerkface Killa 2013-10-28 05:32||   2013-10-28 05:32|| Front Page Top

#4 Ah, Jerkface, you're back.

Mr. Cheney has done something you haven't done yet in your life -- he's very carefully thought through his ideology and how the real world works. When he speaks, it's clear that he knows what he is saying. His answers are (almost always) thoughtful and well considered

Whereas you … well.

But more importantly, since you're just posting comments in your pajamas on your way to collect assistance, and we should (of course) focus on what matters: the current president and vice-president took whatever "mess" the previous administration left and made it worse. Much worse.

Which was Mr. Cheney's point.
Posted by Steve White 2013-10-28 07:26||   2013-10-28 07:26|| Front Page Top

#5 this war criminal

If you are talking about Cheney's pyramid of skulls, or his habit of tooling across the White House lawn on a D-9 while brandishing a shotgun, well, I'm pretty much OK with that.
Posted by SteveS 2013-10-28 08:13||   2013-10-28 08:13|| Front Page Top

#6 What a wonderful picture you paint Steve, a brilliant yellow D-9 at full song the stack emitting a solid stream of black diesel, whilst the hardened steel blade scalps the earth; not unlike what Bambi has done to the economy and our stature in the world community.
Posted by USN,ret 2013-10-28 08:37||   2013-10-28 08:37|| Front Page Top

#7 his habit of tooling across the White House lawn on a D-9 while brandishing a shotgun

Deer slugs not birdshot, I hope.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-10-28 08:39||   2013-10-28 08:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Mideast Allies? Who?
Posted by European Conservative 2013-10-28 09:01||   2013-10-28 09:01|| Front Page Top

#9 If Dick were a REAL man, he'd trade the D-9 in for a vintage Peterbilt tractor unit and take off the mufflers...
Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-10-28 09:44||   2013-10-28 09:44|| Front Page Top

#10 He's been attempting to compensate for years. Five draft deferments is a difficult record to overcome.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-10-28 09:57||   2013-10-28 09:57|| Front Page Top

#11 By suggesting that if there were a counterweight to the super administration, where one party controls both our Executive and Congress, of the Bush Administration which would have checked Republican activities and what you consider illegal military actions, you must also admit that the Tea Party is just that, as you have, and that it is a good thing.

I think that super administrations are bad, that a diversity in Congress better represents the people than the President, whoever is in charge because in general I don't trust groups with that much power. I do remember though a vote in Congress for action in Iraq and Afghanistan, where military action against Libya was bookended between samba lessons and a scrapped discussion about unilateral regional war in Syria. I say unilateral because upon correct reflection if France and the UK were serious they would have gone at it with or without the USA.

And if you are serious about social safety nets and retirement aids, then you must admit that they must be paid for and there are two ways to do that: fiscal conservatism or theft via increased taxes and account raiding. Obamacare is a chickenshit way of the latter, outsourcing the image of fat DC increasing mandatory citizen expenses onto the privately owned State regulated insurance sector.

And to be flat honest, your brand of salesmanship - ugly foreign opinionators of base language and substandard arguement lines - makes people like me identify with the Tea Party, and in a way that will eventually aid you, as you must agree that a stable and prosperous southern neighbor is much prefered to a bankrupt and drug laden criminally dynastic southern neighbor. In fact, if you predict corrrectly, the locusts will go where the best crops are, and if you think that some line on a map stops them you are ciminally incorrect badlander of history. It is in fact the norm; did the Chinese build that wall for shits and giggles, sitting around and thinking "Hey, someday people will say they can see it from space!" No, a Free Shit Army was screwing them big time, but one must admit that the Mongols had a style and pinache about them, and had to actually get down and dirty. You are the 91-0 loser on the football field of debate who spends their energy trying to legislate out of existence the abilities of the other team instead of learning to hike the ball. Gawdammit you are the clown wig of discussion. Get off the handle and put your supervisor on.
Posted by swksvolFF 2013-10-28 10:40||   2013-10-28 10:40|| Front Page Top

#12 Mideast Allies? Who?

For better or worse, With current military and diplomatic ties or defined as "cooperation at some point within the past two decades":

The Magic Kingdom (aka Saudia Arabia)

Qatar

Kuwait

Bahrain

UAE

Oman

Jordan

Israel
Posted by Pappy 2013-10-28 11:15||   2013-10-28 11:15|| Front Page Top

#13 Pappy, based on recent headlines, you probably scratch Saudi Arabia off that list. And Obama doesn't consider Israel an ally.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-10-28 12:12||   2013-10-28 12:12|| Front Page Top

#14 Obama doesn't consider Israel an ally.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia

I suppose the Lemba voting block is too small to be of any real consequence.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-10-28 12:21||   2013-10-28 12:21|| Front Page Top

#15 Pappy, I consider all the countries you named (Israel excepted) not allies, but countries that sometimes give limited assistance to the U.S., only to stab it in the back when they feel like it.

And Israel? What Rambler says. And somehow I don't consider Israel a "Mideast country". It just lacks the wacko factor.
Posted by European Conservative 2013-10-28 17:10||   2013-10-28 17:10|| Front Page Top

#16 Israel is the only real democracy in the Middle East.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-10-28 18:19||   2013-10-28 18:19|| Front Page Top

#17 I consider all the countries you named (Israel excepted) not allies, but countries that sometimes give limited assistance to the U.S., only to stab it in the back when they feel like it.

That can be said about many nations, EC. I suspect that the Israelis and the Arabs work together at times, though it'd never be mentioned by any of them.

The critical part is "limited assistance." If one cannot convince a country on the list that to provide assistance when it is needed, an option is lost. Alienate many, and many potential options are lost.
Posted by Pappy 2013-10-28 18:42||   2013-10-28 18:42|| Front Page Top

#18 muslims see obama as soft/one of their own!
Posted by Ulusoth Shereter7931 2013-10-28 19:37||   2013-10-28 19:37|| Front Page Top

#19 Soft, perhaps.

One of their own?

Hardly.

Let me illustrate with a story:

We were in Mombasa. One of the sailors from the ship had been born in Kenya and his parents immigrated to the US when he was a toddler. As he grew up, he decided to Africanize himself. He changed his name to "Khalif", boned up on Kenyan history, referred to himself as a 'Kenyan', etc.

We entered a local, rather upscale bar, whereupon we sat down. He greeted one of the other patron with "Hey Brother!"

The response was a clipped "Excuse me - I'm not your brother."

"But we're both Kenyan! I was born here!"

"You may have been born here, but your mannerisms and attitude tell me that you're an American. You're as much an African as I am a German because I lived in Berlin for a year. So bugger off."

So like it or not, Obama is considered an American. And also one currently not in high favor. Lucky us.
Posted by Pappy 2013-10-28 21:26||   2013-10-28 21:26|| Front Page Top

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